Posted on 04/10/2018 8:20:47 AM PDT by Simon Green
All time classic!
But Scalia said the right to keep and bare arms was not unlimited. He also said burning a flag was speech when he should have said it was inciting to riot, but he didn't.
I don't think it is that at all. I view it as simply reality and I have to deal with it.
Traveling alone and unarmed in a majority muslim country is dangerous. That is not rational at all, but it is reality, and we have to face reality even if it is irrational.
Not like the guy who wanted to go hiking in Iran and got taken in and thrown in jail for years. Crazy people like him (liberals) think that we should all live in peace, and because he thought that was the way things SHOULD be, he was simply going to ignore the reality.
This poor guy just made a dumb mistake.
That really is the take away from this story. He had become a resident of New York if I read the article correctly. At that point he is clearly in violation of their law, whether one agrees with it or not. I’m also curious how he bought the gun “legally” in Ohio, as that state isn’t mentioned in the travels with the nutjob.
Were it only so simple...
I know a lot of folks (not necessarily you, DoodleDawg) think that a line on a map is going to stop the flow of Leftism, and I don’t think it will. It is like a cancer that will spread insidiously.
Heck, even the red states I look up to in things like this (such as Texas and Georgia) have their share of loony leftist gun-grabbers. Damn leftists, they suck, and are like water seeping through a dam.
WE have to run around night and day, patching up cracks and holes and generally shoring things up, but all they do is sit there and bide their time, hoping the weight of inert water over time overcomes resistance. When we look at how society is now, and how it was even 40 years ago, I think they may be right.
They get a little tiny hole seeping their leftism, they almost never give it back once they get a foothold. I find it infuriating. But I think we shouldn’t surrender those places to them (even figuratively) such as California, Massachusetts and New York.
Just my opinion.
I tend to bow to Scalia on a lot of things because I respected him so much.
The blanket right to keep and bear arms likely does have a limit, so I don’t necessarily think he is wrong there.
I always like to find extremes that few people will argue on, so I can stake out a length of philosophical line, then the brass tacks of where on the length of that line a cleavage point between “yes” and “no” becomes the focus of arguments.
Most people would agree that a violent, unstable schizophrenic who murdered a family of six should not have weapons, so there is a limit at that end.
Our problem is that people on the Left think that rational, law-abiding people shouldn’t own guns either. So, in any discussion with them, we cannot get them to agree even on the length of that philosophical line on the other end.
“Sadly NY has migrated to me. They are all mad as hens. Will blow up at you for the smallest item. “
Last week I was on LI for a funeral. Some Pr*ck kept trying to block me getting on the Belt Pkway, but I called his bluff and he finally backed off. What an ahole.
Naturally not any derivative sense of “Yankee”.
That is only an issue if you think he should be free and alive rather than dead or in jail.
He was dead wrong on the flag issue and I can find nothing good in the decision. Otherwise he was very good on protecting he Constitution. You might have noticed that a minority of people in this country would agree that Scalia was a good Justice and that is a sad thing.
Alright, I can see that. Thanks !
Oh, and thank you for the great debate. I appreciate it !
I agree...that is a sad thing. The man was brilliant. I think Justice Alito is his heir apparent.
Yes. But we see how mental issues are handled now. It is considered to be some kind of affront to their Constitutional rights to institutionalize them...and some people really are mentally ill and need to be institutionalized.
Another legacy of the Left.
And same to you, Celerity.
Honestly, I am glad we can discuss this issue. It is so emotionally charged that some people can’t even discuss it without becoming extremely angry.
With what I see going on right now in the Government, I am having trouble engaging in angry discourse with fellow conservatives.
I am very discouraged today. I believe we are very close to major Constitutional crisis with this unbelievable debacle of the ginned up “collusion” crap.
Speaking of CT. . . . .
There is a Pro-gun rally in Hartford this Saturday.
Supposedly in CT there are at least 250,000 licensed handgun owners. You think they are more activist because of the difficulties in obtaining said LTC, and they would vote in unison to help stamp out the leftists. IMHO, my observations and conversations indicate a lot of these people are apathetic and don’t vote because they believe it won’t make a difference.
Being an Ex-CT Resident I can tell you this... they (we, whatever) were too busy working to pay our outlandish bills to be able to keep up with this stuff.
I lived in a veritable slum with a $2000/month mortgage. No one in CT can do anything because they are too busy working. All we did was drink for fun.
People throughout the NEUS don’t go anywhere or do anything because there is simply no margins every month. It’s sad, but that’s the start of the problem with New England.
The other handgun owners that I was surrounded by were the “’but’ conservatives” which I described earlier. CT had one patriot - John Cinque. The rest were always using the “but” word when talking about the topic.
Not John.
I live in Florida. I have stopped traveling in the north east.
Been there, done it and not interested.
Why do they not heavily publicize those which they ARE fighting? You can't garner public support for a cause if the public is not aware of it!
Think about it. Though we dislike or even hate the sentiment behind the flag burning and the individuals who do so, we have sufficient self-control to not riot in response. It is only incitement to those looking for an excuse to riot anyway.
I do wonder, though, if I were to express my "speech" by burning a homosexual rainbow flag, a Planned Parenthood banner or an ISIS flag if it would be treated the same as leftist morons burning Old Glory.
Since my youth I have been led to believe that Florida is God’s waiting room. Old folks go there to die!
;^)
Maybe he should have used the same standard for the 2A then. I personally find burning or desecrating the flag very offensive and don't respect people that don't think it is. Why are conservatives the only ones that are required to practice restraint?
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