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Trumpís Lawyer Raised Prospect of Pardons for Flynn and Manafort as Special Counsel Closed In
New York Times ^ | 03/28./2018 | By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, JO BECKER, MARK MAZZETTI, MAGGIE HABERMAN and ADAM GOLDMAN

Posted on 03/28/2018 1:03:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON — A lawyer for President Trump broached the idea of Mr. Trump pardoning two of his former top advisers, Michael T. Flynn and Paul Manafort, with their lawyers last year, according to three people with knowledge of the discussions.

The discussions came as the special counsel was building cases against both men, and they raise questions about whether the lawyer, John Dowd, who resigned last week, was offering pardons to influence their decisions about whether to plead guilty and cooperate in the investigation.

The talks suggest that Mr. Trump’s lawyers were concerned about what Mr. Flynn and Mr. Manafort might reveal were they to cut a deal with the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, in exchange for leniency. Mr. Mueller’s team could investigate the prospect that Mr. Dowd made pardon offers to thwart the inquiry, although legal experts are divided about whether such offers might constitute obstruction of justice.

Mr. Dowd’s conversation with Mr. Flynn’s lawyer, Robert K. Kelner, occurred sometime after Mr. Dowd took over last summer as the president’s personal lawyer, at a time when a grand jury was hearing evidence against Mr. Flynn on a range of potential crimes. Mr. Flynn, who served as Mr. Trump’s first national security adviser, agreed in late November to cooperate with the special counsel’s investigation. He pleaded guilty in December to lying to the F.B.I. about his conversations with the Russian ambassador and received favorable sentencing terms.

Mr. Dowd has said privately that he did not know why Mr. Flynn had accepted a plea, according to one of the people. He said he had told Mr. Kelner that the president had long believed that the case against Mr. Flynn was flimsy and was prepared to pardon him, the person said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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1 posted on 03/28/2018 1:03:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well now that will put the Leftists shorts in a real twist!


2 posted on 03/28/2018 1:04:25 PM PDT by dpetty121263 (Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

Written by 5 people - it’s piled high and deep.


3 posted on 03/28/2018 1:04:42 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: SeekAndFind

Help me. What is scandalous about the president’s lawyer talking to him about exercising one of his constitutional prerogatives?


4 posted on 03/28/2018 1:06:04 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: freedomlover

Five idiots? That’s a record.


5 posted on 03/28/2018 1:06:06 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: SeekAndFind

Not concerned about Manafort, he’s played fast and loose for a long time.

But General Flynn should and will unquestionably be pardoned if the charges are not dropped. And I believe Trump will personally make him and his family whole after he is in a position to do so without it distracting from MAGA and becoming a media sideshow.


6 posted on 03/28/2018 1:08:54 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust Sessions. The Great Awakening is at hand...MAGA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power.” – Malcolm X


7 posted on 03/28/2018 1:11:02 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not true, not true, Fake News.


8 posted on 03/28/2018 1:11:18 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bigbob

Agree about Manafort.

With Flynn, I’m nervous about his Turkish consulting. And, even if the whole Mueller interaction with him is flawed and deserves pardon, why was he reported to have been untruthful with Pence? That’s the proximate cause of his firing.

And, let me repeat, its different from his deserving to get out from under the stacked Mueller charges.


9 posted on 03/28/2018 1:12:24 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: SeekAndFind

NYT leaking or pretending to lead privileged attorney-client communications. There is no low they won’t plow.


10 posted on 03/28/2018 1:12:25 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: freedomlover

Five times zero is still ZERO.


11 posted on 03/28/2018 1:12:27 PM PDT by Lent
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is a typical yet unremarkable example of the ugly rot that has infested the New York Times and much or most of the other biased, partisan media.

If they can string together a largely false, or at-best-unproven, anti-Trump narrative out of a dog’s breakfast of innuendo and ‘what if’ speculation and unsourced allegations lacking in substance, chock full of questions raised rather than answers given, then that passes for “news” and they’ll run with it.

On the other hand, if there’s unimpeachable evidence of massive wrongdoing including patently illegal acts, corruption, mind-blowingly-audacious scandal, and more at the highest levels of the federal government, pointing directly at Obama and the Obamunists who surround him, including the IRS, the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, the DNC, Joe Biden and his family, the Clinton campaign and foundation, Bill and Hillary Clinton themselves, Russia and other enemies of the US, etc. then they will massively downplay it, claim that it’s just partisan jockeying without substance, and otherwise do their best to cover it up.


12 posted on 03/28/2018 1:15:59 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: SeekAndFind

No big deal. Presidents have issued pardons for many, many years. Look at all the criminals Odumbo pardoned. Too bad W. Bush lacked the cojones to pardon Scooter Libby.


13 posted on 03/28/2018 1:17:33 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like those lawyers committed a thought crime according to the lights of the NYT. It must have taken five people holding on to each other to get the story of pure evil onto a page.


14 posted on 03/28/2018 1:20:30 PM PDT by odawg
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To: bboop

Makes you wonder who was/is doing the leaking and was Dowd part of the leaking?


15 posted on 03/28/2018 1:21:14 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: SeekAndFind
WOW!!! They've definitely got him now! Version 130.56. 😄😄😄😐
16 posted on 03/28/2018 1:23:29 PM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“...why was he reported to have been untruthful with Pence? That’s the proximate cause of his firing.”

Why did they not keep that in-house? Did he really lie to Pence? Pence is great friends with Congressman who lie daily. Has Pence ever been lied to? All that leaking going on is on the same level as lying. Yet no one, except maybe lately, has been fired. They have all been protected by Jeff, who only expresses anger over it and no action.


17 posted on 03/28/2018 1:26:12 PM PDT by odawg
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like attorney-client privilege applies to everyone but Trump.


18 posted on 03/28/2018 1:28:10 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
The New York Slimes and its parade of Partisan Media Shills tries yet another smear. Thanks SeekAndFind.

19 posted on 03/28/2018 1:36:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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“according to three people with knowledge of the discussions.”

Leaked to the Slimes by the White house janitor, who heard it from the Whitehouse cook, who overheard the Whitehouse gardener saying.......


20 posted on 03/28/2018 1:43:11 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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