Posted on 03/14/2018 2:52:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Lets turn to the nomination of Gina Haspel. Gina Haspel has been chosen by Trump to be the director of the CIA. Shes been the deputy director for a number of years, and the way the CIA and the Department of Justice in many ways The way theyre structured is that the deputy At the CIA especially, the deputy is the day-to-day operations director. There is a director of operations, but the deputy director is generally the lifer who has reams and reams of CIA experience in the field, at Langley, and basically is in the know of pretty much everything important going on.
Theres nobody at the CIA who knows everything going on everywhere in the world. I asked this once of General [Michael] Hayden. I ran into him at a Steelers game Pittsburgh when he was I think he had just left the directorship. And I asked this of Rumsfeld when he was at the Pentagon. I asked them both. I asked of Rumsfeld, Is there somebody in the Pentagon that knows everything the Department of Defense is doing that day? He said (laughing), No. Thats not possible. Were all over the world. Thats why so many things are delegated.
I mean, you have to trust people. Thats why you have a defense policy. Thats why you have objectives and people on the ground. He said, You know, Rush and he was talking about both the Department of Defense and the CIA here. Cause Rumsfeld has experience with both. He was telling me, Rush, at the CIA, there are operatives who literally are on their own. We dont even know where they are. Theyre trained, theyre around the world, and they can insert themselves in any hot spot they think theyre needed.
Some of this is for deniability for the United States government, but there are a lot of highly trained people that are basically They act as independent contractors. You wont find them on the payroll, but they do not have to get specific permission to conduct ops. And that both surprised me and didnt when I stopped to think about it. General Hayden, I asked, As director of the CIA, do you know everything people have their hands in? He said, No, it isnt possible, which I understand, but it still boggles my mind.
Youre thinking of CEO of a company. Lets take Tim Cook at Apple. I mean, Im just sharing with you questions I ask myself, cause Ive never been a CEO. You know, I would love to interview CEOs for The Limbaugh Letter, but theyre not gonna answer political questions, so I dont. But do they know? Does Tim Cook know everything going on at Apple? Like, if I said, Tim, whats coming in beta 6 of iOS 11.3? would he know? And people say, Probably not. Thats too localized. Hes working on things that are 20 years down the road, 10 years down the road.
I say, Hes gotta have some knowledge of whats Hes gotta know what the next iPhones gonna be, right? He has to have signed off on it. Well, maybe not signed off on it, but he certainly knows. These things You know, things I havent done are the things Im really most curious about and how theyre done well, and being a CEO is one of those things. Im CEO of the EIB Network, but its not a massive global concern, and since I am EIB, I know everything EIB is doing cause Im it. (interruption)
Well, now, you laugh in there but theres no other show here that I have to be worried about whats going on there. I know the sales effort, the promotion, the marketing efforts, affiliate relations. I know all that cause it doesnt happen without me. But thats not true in major, big-time corporations or even some mid-size/small businesses. Well, the director, the deputy director of the CIA is as close as youre gonna get to the person who knows and assigns whats going on in CIA, and thats who Trump has picked.
The forces of opposition are marshaling, and they are led by John McCain. All you have to do is put torture in a sentence containing the nominees name, and youre guaranteed to get opposition from McCain. Rand Paul is signing on to opposing her for similar reasons. Now, youve only got 52 votes in the Senate, and already two of them are gone, all because of torture and the torture has to do with waterboarding 9/11 suspects! Shes considered un-confirmable because of that. Let me read to you from the New York Times:
The CIAs first overseas detention site was in Thailand. It was run by Ms. Haspel, who oversaw the brutal interrogations of two detainees, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. Mr. Zubaydah alone was waterboarded 83 times in a single month, had his head repeatedly slammed into walls and endured other harsh methods before interrogators decided he had no useful information to provide. The sessions were videotaped and the recordings stored in a safe at the CIA station in Thailand until 2005, when they were ordered destroyed.
By then, Ms. Haspel was serving at CIA headquarters, and it was her name that was on the cable carrying the destruction orders. Now, it turns out that Ms. Haspel worked for a CIA interrogation specialist by the name of Jose Rodriguez, and it turns out that Lesley Stahl at 60 Minutes did a profile or an interview of Jose Rodriguez. That interview and sound bites from that interview are among my all-time favorite audio sound bites here on the EIB Network.
So I would like to travel back in time to the Grooveyard of Forgotten Sound Bites. Were gonna go back to April of 2012, CBS 60 Minutes, Lesley Stahl is interviewing He was by then former CIA interrogation specialist Jose Rodriguez. He was the one who interrogated the big kahuna, the grand pooh-bah, the head sheik, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was the actual nuts and bolts, Xs and Os planner and architect of the 9/11 attacks. Bin Laden stood back there and took the credit, but it was this guy who actually drew up the plans.
And he was interrogated, and he was waterboarding a lot by Jose Rodriguez, and it was the waterboarding that got the truth out of him. The question boils down to: Is waterboarding torture or not? Well, to McCain it is; and to Rand Paul it is; to the Democrats it is; to the CIA it wasnt. So Lesley Stahls question to Jose Rodriguez and if you havent heard this, youre gonna love it. So, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was subjected to waterboarding, specifically 183 pourings of water in about six separate sessions. Jose Rodriguez said the average pour lasted 10 seconds.
Let me define the terms here. Youve all seen waterboarding portrayed on TV now. They strap a perp to a bench or a table level and maybe even head down just slightly, and then they grab a rag, a towel, and they put it over the perps head including covering the mouth and the nostrils and then they grab the water. Its in a pitcher, its in a glass, its in a large tumbler, whatever, and they pour it on the face of the perp. The perp begins to get the sensation that he is drowning and begins to panic immediately.
It is said that nobody can withstand it, that nobody can survive it except this guy, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, 183 times and a pour is 10 seconds, means they pour the water for 10 seconds on you. Remember the reporter Christopher Hitchens volunteered to undergo official waterboarding to find out what all the hubbub was about, and he couldnt handle even one time, he said. However, it is training for the Navy SEALs. You have to be able to survive this and be unaffected by it before you can pass. I think its the SEALs. It might be some other Special Forces branch.
But if its part of training, then, ergo, it isnt torture. I havent tried it. Everybody who hasnt thinks when they look at it, Hey, I could beat that. Just hold your breath! Just hold your breath. But what happens is that they angle the board down just slightly, your head just slightly lower than your feet, and the water starts running down your nose. You can close your mouth but you cant close your nose. The water rolls down your nose, down your throat, and you start gagging and spurting and coughing while the water continues to be poured into you and you end up spitting it out and so forth.
Its, from what Im told, scary as heck because it is something that makes you think youre dying. So heres the question again: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was subjected to waterboarding 183 times in six sessions Jose Rodriguez explains
RODRIGUEZ: Can I say something about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? Hes the one that was responsible for the death of Danny Pearl, the Wall Street [Journal] reporter. He slit his throat in front of the camera. I dont know what type of man it takes to cut the throat of someone in front of you like that, but I can tell you that this is an individual who probably didnt give a rats ass about having water poured on his face.
STAHL: He never believed for one second you were gonna kill him?
RODRIGUEZ: No. And let me just tell you: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would use his fingers to count the number of seconds because he knew that in all likelihood, we would stop at ten. So this doesnt sound like a person who is afraid of dying.
RUSH: Okay. So Khalid Sheikh Mohammed slits Danny Pearls throat and this was on TV. If you wanted to look at it, you could find it. He was a Wall Street Journal reporter who had his throat cut early on in all the War on Terror, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed survived 183 waterboardings, okay? So now Lesley Stahl has that answer. Now she starts getting into the humane aspects of this, and this is where it gets funny.
RODRIGUEZ: No! He gets a good nights sleep. He gets his Ensure. By the way, he was very heavy when he came to us and he lost 50 pounds.
STAHL: What! His Ensure? You mean like people in the hospital who will drink that stuff?
RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Dietary manipulation was part of these dire techniques.
STAHL: So sleep deprivation! Dietary manipulation! I mean, this is Orwellian stuff. The United States doesnt do that.
RODRIGUEZ: Well, we do.
RUSH: (laughing) Well, we do! Well, we do! Then the question that she asked (summarized), So So what happens in the waterboarding business? And be prepared to play the answer again. What happened? Does he break down? Does he start crying? Did Khalid Sheikh Mohammed fall apart? (replaying of sound bite) Well, we do! Thats 60 Minutes, and notice he is toying with her. He is acknowledging that she thinks making prisoners drink Ensure is dire. Its one of the CIAs dire interrogation techniques. You know, shes just lapping it all up.
Now, Ensure is You all know. Its whats given to people who dont want to eat or who cant eat. Its a high dose of calories in a small, little bottle of beverage, and its designed to get calories in people who have lost their appetite, dont want to eat for whatever reason. So its actually a health aid. These guys go on hunger strikes so the they forced him to drink the Ensure, and Lesley Stahl says, We just dont do that! Thats horrible! We dont do that kind of stuff. Oh, but we do. Dire techniques.
Anyway, thats the man that Ms. Haspel worked for and is now said to be unqualified. The New York Times story declares that waterboarding is torture and that this woman has happily and eagerly engaged in it. But of course we have to go back and you can do this to 2013, 2014, when the War On Terror Actually even before that, before the war in Iraq, shortly after 9/11. We had Nancy Pelosi suggesting that waterboarding wasnt enough, that if were gonna get serious about stopping these people, we cant stop at such piddly little things as waterboarding.
The U.S. military waterboard as part of survival training. Anyway, so thats what shes up against and well have to wait and see how it falls out. Trump likes her. Shes eminently respected in the building from what Im told. Shed be the first female director. For you Vince Flynn fans, shed be Irene Kennedy. So now its the Democrats Let it be known, the Democrats are gonna mount an offense, mount an effort to deny a woman the first woman her chance to be director of the CIA.
With two no’s already she may not get confirmed. It’s stupid but that’s where we are.
For starters, I’m SO SICK of Lesley Stahl! Shut UP, Lesley!
Secondly, who among us females HASN’T tortured some male in SOME way along the line? We drove our poor Dads crazy while we were growing up. We drove our High School boyfriends nuts...and then we moved on to full frontal Psy Ops with our Husbands! ;)
*SMIRK*
And...
“Let it be known, the Democrats are gonna mount an offense, mount an effort to deny a woman the first woman her chance to be director of the CIA.” ~ Rush
Dems hate women. Hillary! has been yappin’ all week (in between falls and bottles of Scotch) how much she, PERSONALLY, hates me! She doesn’t have to tell me anymore. I get it, Bish!
Moral high ground is a wonderful thing....
If only it weren’t part of a totally imaginary landscape.
A lot of these people that are against her were in the Senate back when it was going on. If it was such a deal, why didn’t they deal with it then?
Let’s face it, they hate women.
While I would like her to be confirmed - does it matter if she is confirmed or not? IF she gets denied, why can’t she operate as the head of the CIA from her current position and not fill it. Then when we get more Republican seats in November then confirm her then. (if that doesn’t work then keep her in place as head of the CIA.
As some pundits on Fox News yesterday were discussing - this is a battle that would favor Trump.
Interesting idea. However it is based on the hope that we get reinforcements in November. Not sure that happens.
He's clever at this 3-D chess.
From your lips to God’s ears.
Yeah with Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky and McCain saying they’ll vote against it. You are probably right, and it only takes two from our side I believe
“why cant she operate as the head of the CIA from her current position and not fill it.”
I wondered that myself. It’s important to place highly qualified people in the #2 spots for this very reason. Maybe more important than in the actual top positions.
We mus absolutely increase our numbers by as many to get a majority of at least 60
Rush,
Every girl tortures. Don’t you remember being a freshman boy in High School and having the varsity cheerleaders come prancing by in their uniforms?
Pure tortue for any 14 year old boy.
She can be interim like Gates was.
How soon we’ve forgotten all those Americans who were murdered on 09-11-2001. Google it.
Maybe we should do beheadings like our enemy!
I wonder, did she oversee the decapitation of any Taliban or terrorists during her tenure?
Plus this...
Equals this.
Works for me.
Quite frankly, I didn't even want to use you guys, with your dip and velcro and all your gear bullshit. I wanted to drop a bomb. But people (Essentially the Obama administration) didn't believe in this lead enough to drop a bomb.
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