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Obama's 'Experts' and Trump's Instincts
American Thinker.com ^ | March 13, 2018 | Jack Hellner

Posted on 03/13/2018 10:40:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

Why are people with foreign policy experience on North Korea and elsewhere referred to as "experts" when they so often fail to achieve their goals? The media, Democrats, and supposed experts on North Korea are wringing their hands about President Trump's planned meeting with the North Korean dictator.

They say that Trump doesn't know what he is doing and that people at the State Department that have expertise are gone.

I always have trouble with all the people who are called experts because they have had so little success at what they supposedly are expert about.

For the last 25 years, Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama have been toyed with by North Korea while the North Koreans continually built up their nuclear weapons, and the media go to the very people who let this happen for analysis on Trump.

In October 1994, via the New York Times:

President Clinton approved a plan today to arrange more than $4 billion in energy aid to North Korea during the next decade in return for a commitment from the country's hard-line Communist leadership to freeze and gradually dismantle its nuclear weapons development program.

"This agreement will help achieve a longstanding and vital American objective – an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean Peninsula," Mr. Clinton said this afternoon, after his top foreign policy advisers described the details of an enormously complex agreement struck with North Korea late Monday.

"This agreement is good for the United States, good for our allies, and good for the safety of the entire world," Mr. Clinton said in a brief appearance in the White House press room this afternoon. "It's a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community."


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barackhussein0bama; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; worstpresidentever

1 posted on 03/13/2018 10:40:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
they so often fail to achieve their goals

Every time bureaucrats fail to solve a problem, they achieve their goal -- perpetuation of studies and roundtables, i.e., their bureau and jobs.

2 posted on 03/13/2018 10:43:47 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Kaslin

They are ‘experts’ in the same manner as economists are ‘experts’ on the business of business having never held a job in the real world or owned a business.................


3 posted on 03/13/2018 10:47:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

Precisely. I did security for these clowns, in Iraq. We used to joke that if you talked to some of the State people and asked them what they did, they wouldn’t be able to give you a legitimate answer.

What does the person who works in the, Econ Section, do? More importantly, what does that guy do, when assigned to somewhere like the embassy in London? Is he there trying to teach the Brits how to improve or set up their banking system? Doubt it. In Iraq, they were pulling people for the Treasury Dept to show the Iraqi’s how to set up a banking system, that was “portable”. Meaning, a family that was visiting relatives in Erbil, from Basra, wouldn’t have to travel with thousands of dinar on them and risk getting robbed on the way. They could take what they needed for the trip and get more in Erbil, if they needed it.

It was painful to watch them go about their business. And these are the “experts” that were negotiating trade deals. As you stated, people that have never held a real job, let alone ran a business, negotiating with absolute sharks, from other countries. We’ve had radical Liberal, Leftists, Socialists, Progressive, Communist, Islamic Apologists, making decision for far too long.

Candidate Trump stated it perfectly, during the campaign, when he said he would get the most ruthless people he knew of, from Wall St to negotiate our trade deals. He characterized these people as those “that you wouldn’t wan them in your house”, but they’d get the best deal for America.

More importantly, the State Dept serves a purpose. But, with modern air travel and modern communications, there is no reason to have embassies, like the ones in London, Paris, Berlin and elsewhere, with 100s or 1000s of people doing nothing but waiting for the next happy hour.


4 posted on 03/13/2018 11:12:34 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

With Internet, they don’t need people there at all. They can apply online for visas, extensions, lodge complaints or ask questions................................


5 posted on 03/13/2018 11:21:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

“Obama’s ‘Experts’ and Trump’s Instincts”

Democrat Presidents don’t have experts. They have people who know how to read text books and maybe visited the country once or twice handle foreign policy and diplomacy. Mostly the CIA compiles a profile on the country and that becomes the gospel.

Academics without experience outside the hallowed halls of academia doesn’t make you an expert. It makes you an ideologue without a stitch of common sense which pretty much sums up liberalism.


6 posted on 03/13/2018 11:44:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (What is a Blue City? First world cities run by third world politicians.)
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To: Kaslin

As my dad would say, government ASS-PERTS.


7 posted on 03/13/2018 11:47:04 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: Kaslin

Why ask the fox about a security perimeter for the hen house?


8 posted on 03/13/2018 11:53:48 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Red Badger

I think you need a small contingent of folks, to see people face to face and physically process paperwork and applications. But, the need for having a few hundred to 1000 employees in any one embassy is absurd.

Lots of guys that I used to work with were convinced that all those employees were just CIA folks, using the State Dept as cover. Well, there are CIA folks at every embassy. The Chief of Station and staff. And there may be quite a few others, with cover jobs. But, if the people I saw, protected and shared the dining hall with, at the US Embassy in Iraq, are any indication of our spies and their political loyalties, then this country is F*CKED, emphasis mine. And we have been since the 50s or 60s. Because Jason Bourne and James Bond, they are not.

Additionally, the US Government and State Dept ABSOLUTELY HAS to cut ties with all the NGOs, etc, that work with the State Dept. These are the organizations that go out and recruit refugees and coach them on what to say to the willing accomplices in the State Dept. They all make a good living. Live off the US taxpayer. And flood the US with 3rd world ugly. All so they can go back to their friends in DC and NYC and brag about how many people they saved.


9 posted on 03/13/2018 11:59:04 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
For the last 25 years, Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama have been toyed with by North Korea while the North Koreans continually built up their nuclear weapons, and the media go to the very people who let this happen for analysis on Trump.
Thanks Kaslin.

10 posted on 03/13/2018 12:17:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: qaz123

You have to remember, the object of the State Department is to prevent war thru diplomacy, no matter the cost. The old saying, “War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy” and that’s what they see themselves as, saving humanity from a war.

Whereas the miltary’s job is to win wars by killing people and breaking things as efficiently as possible.

So, you see that from those two different points of view, the diplomats and the military are sometimes and most times at cross-purposes.

The CIA, NSA and other intel gathering agencies have a purpose that sometimes sides with one then the other and can change at any time under given sets of circumstances. They can withhold or delay info to one or both entities as their allegiances waver from one to another, or none but their own purposes.

The only staff that an embassy would really need is an ambassador, secretarial staff and some aides decamp. A kiosk computer terminal for visa applications and some housekeeping and maintenance personnel, and that’s it...............


11 posted on 03/13/2018 12:39:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: Red Badger

I saw what you’re talking about every day. Routinely, I had the US Ambassador to Iraq in the back of the Suburban I was driving, while he sat next to the MNFI Commander. Two guys from complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

One guy was responsible for all the troops, the Surge, and all the military operations in the country.

One guy was a the ultimate, muslim apologist that hated the military and it’s existence, with hundreds of radical liberal staffers running all over the place, doing nothing but getting drunk every night, trying to hook up with all the contractors and military guys. The very ones they hated.

It was common to hear them say, stuff like...”if it weren’t for the military, we could do our jobs so much better and Iraq would be in much better shape”. When all they did was drop off briefcases full of money to corrupt iraqi officials.


12 posted on 03/13/2018 12:53:17 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123; Red Badger

Well, there you go.

Are not the “experts” (who were giving the State Dept money to the corrupt politicians and police and customs officials overseas) the very ones complaining about Trump NOT using the “experts” any more? That is, of course, the “experts” in the national press corpse who ARE the ones attacking Trump for his successes!


13 posted on 03/13/2018 1:28:57 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Migraine

If your target is zero you’ll hit it every time!


14 posted on 03/13/2018 4:33:41 PM PDT by klimeckg
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To: klimeckg

Yep!


15 posted on 03/13/2018 8:00:06 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Winner Winner...Chicken Dinner!!!

That is precisely what they are. The reason they all stay in public service like that and do anything to protect their ‘civil service protections’ is, because they can’t hold a job in the outside world.


16 posted on 03/14/2018 12:59:16 AM PDT by qaz123
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