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The Real Russian Disaster
National Review ^ | 02/27/2018 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/27/2018 8:25:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/27/2018 8:25:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Russia hatred is now being promoted by globalists. Since communism collapsed, Russia over the last twenty five years has been seeking the soul of its traditional culture, its religion and nationalist identity. Globalists abhor nationalism and especially do not want to have an American nationalist state and a Russian nationalist state. Actually capitalist, nationalistic, core Christian American and Russian nations would have far more in common than differences. Totally unacceptable to globalists who are doing all they can to rekindle American-Russian animosity.


2 posted on 02/27/2018 8:36:37 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: allendale

You have nailed it.


3 posted on 02/27/2018 8:40:07 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: allendale

Russia and US were on good terms before 1917.


4 posted on 02/27/2018 8:45:47 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

VDH is a great historian and social commentator.

But he sucks as a political analyst.

This is little more than regurgitated Neocon spittle from NRO.

Russia has ALWAYS tried to influence US elections. Going back to the founding of the Soviet Union. They have even infiltrated high government office (Alger Hiss) in an effort to alter US action, and to spy.

There is nothing new to what Russia is doing. Nothing.

Yet what IS new is an administration using this known activity to justify spying on its political opponents, violating innumerable laws in the process.

And that spying is the only new thing here. Not a “resurgent, hostile” Russia.


5 posted on 02/27/2018 8:50:56 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

Self serving Neo-liberal pap.


6 posted on 02/27/2018 9:03:19 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: SeekAndFind
Victor Davis Hanson just cut his own throat with a Russian blade imported for him by his loyal opposition Progressive Democrats.

I thought he was smarter than that, I guess they told him they'd respect him in the morning.

7 posted on 02/27/2018 9:13:29 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m pretty confident that the Russians will look out for the Russians.

Nations that compete with the United States will try to influence our elections and policies.

The American President needs to work for the citizens of the United States.

The Clintons and Obama work for Soros.


8 posted on 02/27/2018 9:28:16 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NorseViking

There is actually a decent chance that the reason we have Smith and Wesson today is because of the Czar ordering 41,000 break top revolvers.


9 posted on 02/27/2018 9:34:00 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Mariner

Agreed. Basically VDH story is that one day for reasons we never fully understood, Russia seized Crimea and moved into Syria. Not a word about us flipping them the finger in Libya and unleashing a Sunni insurgency in Syria to remove an ally of several decades. Next the McCain Neuland Soros nazi coup in Kiev designed to put NATO directly against their border and turn Sevastopol into a NATO navy base. Then the 2011 elections, Hillary HERSELF tried to get a color revolution going inside Russia.

Then we get the incessant whining of the EU about Russian oil and gas. The EU wants to own and run the Russian oil and Gas industry from wellhead to pipeline to end user. Ive never seen a customer so hell bent on dictating to a monopoly they buy from. (*and created by their own green policies)

Last, I think it is often underestimated how Obama’s homosexual past came into play here. The very first rumbling of discord between us and Russia came when president stompy foot bitterly opposed the ST Petersburg and Moscow anti-homo recruiting and parading laws. Obama and Hillary took that very personally.


10 posted on 02/27/2018 9:44:40 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: allendale

thuggish Putin ... autocratic Russia.


Meanwhile we strut about claiming America defeated ISIS, ignoring the dog’s breakfast that was made of the Middle East, and following the same jingoism that overlooks Russia’s massive role in defeating Nazi Germany.

VDH has yet to atone for his attacks on Trump, unless I missed something. Until he does, I’ll envision his opinions as if they were being read out loud by a clown.


11 posted on 02/27/2018 9:46:27 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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The American President needs to work for the citizens of the United States.


Yup. And the State Department’s mission statement has to be changed from representing other countries to the US to representing the US to other countries. The former is the function of other nations’ foreign ministries, a nuance forgotten for the last fifty years ... and counting.


12 posted on 02/27/2018 9:50:22 AM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: allendale

Ever notice how they hate Russia and Trump’s vision of America equally? That is because those are the only two manifestations of the nation state out there.

The Globalists try to cast it as “America vs Russia”. Actually it’s occupied globalist occupied neocon version of America the Russians oppose. Globalists only love America when it serves globalism and leftism. It despises Trump and America looking after herself.


13 posted on 02/27/2018 9:52:09 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with all of this, except that it omits the Seth Rich leak of emails as source of Hillary deception. Additionally, what are we doing about Hillary and Co.’s deception of America?


14 posted on 02/27/2018 10:10:34 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Mariner
Russia has ALWAYS tried to influence US elections. Going back to the founding of the Soviet Union. They have even infiltrated high government office (Alger Hiss) in an effort to alter US action, and to spy.

There is nothing new to what Russia is doing. Nothing.

Yet what IS new is an administration using this known activity to justify spying on its political opponents, violating innumerable laws in the process. And that spying is the only new thing here. Not a “resurgent, hostile” Russia.

Bingo! It's also more likely the dossier was created to cover for spying on political opponents - Republican candidates - - than the other way around.

15 posted on 02/27/2018 10:34:47 AM PST by GOPJ (The 'dead vote' is a byproduct of fraud that "votes the people who don't show up".)
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To cover up spying on political opponents, yes, but also...

To have an Alinskyite counter to the traitorous acts involved in Uranium One,

To create an atmosphere conducive toward an astroturfed impeachment proceeding,

To bind the new administration's hands in fighting off claimed scandal,

To make Democrats seem a better alternative to Trump (even suggesting a "viable way" that H-> could "yet become" president), as they look toward mid-terms and 2020,

To hinder--if not financially destroy--administration underlings through expensive legal responses,

To create a heightened, successor-to-MK-Ultra-like environment for a Nikolas Cruz or Jared Loughner-type to go on one or more lethal, anti-Trump rampages.

16 posted on 02/27/2018 10:53:36 AM PST by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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“Next the McCain Neuland Soros nazi coup in Kiev designed to put NATO directly against their border and turn Sevastopol into a NATO navy base. Then the 2011 elections, Hillary HERSELF tried to get a color revolution going inside Russia.”

Our meddling in the Ukraine and in the 2011 Russian election is never mentioned in the MSM as an important precursor to Russia’s (clumsy) efforts to interfere in our elections.


17 posted on 02/27/2018 10:59:24 AM PST by riverdawg
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-- And that spying is the only new thing here. --

It's not new. The only reason it "got this big" is that the public rejected the uniparty offerings for the presidency.

18 posted on 02/27/2018 11:01:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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Rescuing Boris - TIME Magazine - June 24, 2001

The outcome was by no means inevitable. Last winter Yeltsin's approval ratings were in the single digits. There are many reasons for his change in fortune, but a crucial one has remained a secret. For four months, a group of American political consultants clandestinely participated in guiding Yeltsin's campaign. Here is the inside story of how these advisers helped Yeltsin achieve the victory that will keep reform in Russia alive.

I understand that you were pointing to 2011 and later events. I'm just pointing out that the left is proud that the US meddles in the affairs of other countries, then is outraged over the 1st amendment.

19 posted on 02/27/2018 11:05:42 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: NorseViking
Russia and US were on good terms before 1917.
. . . as witness the sale of Alaska to the US by Russia.

Also the purchase by Americans of the bonds Russia sold to finance the Siberia Railroad.


20 posted on 02/27/2018 11:35:09 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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