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Trump endorses guns for teachers to stop shootings
BBC ^ | Feb. 21, 2018 | BBC

Posted on 02/21/2018 7:15:27 PM PST by Innovative

US President Donald Trump has said arming teachers could prevent school shootings like that which left 17 people dead last week in Florida.

A staff member with a gun could end an attack "very quickly", he said.

Mr Trump floated the proposal as emotional survivors of the 14 February massacre implored him to make sure it never happens again.

The Republican president also backed calls for improved background checks on gun buyers.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ca; california; guns; nra; secondamendment; shootings; trump; whittier
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To: Innovative

Where’s the home schooling endorsement?


61 posted on 02/21/2018 8:40:27 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: digger48

he’s a dick


62 posted on 02/21/2018 8:46:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: confederatecarpetbag
 
 
Liberals are so concerned about protecting “our kids” from gun violence that they ignore the malice visited each year on tens of nameless millions, whose sole offense is the misfortune to occupy a womb.
 
THIS. They have NO moral authority in any concerns for child safety. None. Zero.
 
 

63 posted on 02/21/2018 8:46:12 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: chris37

I was listening to Mark Levin the other night, and he was saying there was a school shooting in Israel several years ago and after that they trained and armed teachers. Since then there have been two more school shooting incidents, and both times the perpetrator(s) were shot and killed by the teachers.


64 posted on 02/21/2018 8:50:21 PM PST by murron
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To: Innovative

Brilliant by President Trump!!! Name another President in the last 50 years who would have done this.


65 posted on 02/21/2018 8:52:01 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: WhatNot

“Most teachers are liberal nut jobs, who crack up at a moments notice, handing crazy lunitic teachers guns is a bad idea. Armed Marshals and metal detectors may be a more sane solution.”

I think arming teachers and giving them proper training would make them be more responsible too.


66 posted on 02/21/2018 8:55:18 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: shanover

He was not living with family. He had moved in with a friend, in November. Their last name was Snead. She was a nurse. The Friend’s Dad was an army veteran-military intelligence.

They made him put his weapons in the cabinet and turn over the keys. However, Cruz must have made an extra. The weapons didn’t make them nervous as the Vet had plenty of his own, also locked in a cabinet.


67 posted on 02/21/2018 9:13:36 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Just yesterday Freepers were saying they would never vote for Trump again because of bump stocks.


68 posted on 02/21/2018 9:14:19 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Innovative

Oh no! No, No!
We don’t want more guns, we want to disarm you, I mean less guns. What if it actually worked, you’d look good again
So if trump is for it, we have to be against it.


69 posted on 02/21/2018 9:18:54 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Innovative

Our school staff can carry concealed in Utah, and the Utah Shooting Sports Council trains them for free... all state campuses, K through our universities, and yes, students can carry with a permit.


70 posted on 02/21/2018 9:33:19 PM PST by glock rocks (... so much win!)
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To: murron

That’s very good.

What I posted on that is just my opinion. I’m no expert. Maybe armed teachers is the only step we need to take. I don’t know.

Maybe just a potential perp knowing he will meet with resistance is enough.


71 posted on 02/21/2018 9:44:53 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Innovative

No.

Eliminate gun free zones and let any permit holder carry, if they want to.


72 posted on 02/21/2018 9:54:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Innovative; Blue Collar Christian; MountainWalker; chris37; Extremely Extreme Extremist; ...
Isn't it interesting that the concealed carry option has been around for decades and other options for preventing gun violence have been proven useless for decades. Consider the published dates of the links I noted for the below letter I sent to Florida senators and about 40 commentator and papers.

From: Retain Mike Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:15 PM To: WSJ Letters (wsj.ltrs@wsj.com) Subject: Concealed Carry for Schools

President Obama ordered a gun violence study by Centers for Disease Control (CDC). The study concluded that self-defense can be an important crime deterrent and there was no evidence that gun restrictions reduce gun violence. Anyone who does not believe me can pay $38 for their own copy. However, the CDC study ordered by Bill Clinton in 2003 came to the same conclusions and that one is free on line.

The Clinton Administration also commissioned in 2005 a National Science Foundation (NSF) study that could not find a positive correlation between gun control laws and other measures after consulting 400 sources and doing its own research. The only dissent was detailed in Appendix A saying John Lott’s conclusion from his studies that concealed carry laws do drive down murder rates had in fact survived all attempts at reanalysis.

Here the dissenter referred to a twenty-year study by John Lott and William Landes from the University of Chicago Law School. That and subsequent Lott studies the NSF reviewed correlated passage of concealed carry laws with large decreases in multiple victim shootings, and reduced harm when shootings did occur.

The Florida student’s emotional, asymmetrical reactions are simply useful political theater. A useful answer would be concealed carry on campus by school employees.

Harden the site and psychopaths will go elsewhere. People in a gun free zone can expect the same security as chickens in a Foster Farms processing plant.

Obama Study Concluded Firearms Used for Self-Defense ‘Important Crime Deterrent’ https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/obama-study-concluded-firearms-used-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

Center for Disease Control First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm

National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine: Firearms and Violence, A Critical Review http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309091241

Study by John Lott and William Landes from the University of Chicago Law School http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=272929

73 posted on 02/21/2018 9:58:15 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Innovative

That should stop some of the hand wringing going on FR over Trump’s support of the 2nd Amendment.


74 posted on 02/21/2018 9:59:53 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DBrow

Unfortunately, that has already happened and it didn’t. Pearl, MS - shooter stopped by school administrator going to his car, getting his 1911 and screwing it into the shooter’s ear.


75 posted on 02/21/2018 10:08:17 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Innovative

Looks like Trump’s political judo is at work again.


76 posted on 02/21/2018 10:28:13 PM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: Innovative

A roving patrol might catch these teenagers f-—ing and smoking dope in the woods behind the screwell. So they won’t like it.


77 posted on 02/21/2018 11:05:25 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Innovative; chris37

That’s how you win, folks. Pay attention. The Master is at work.


78 posted on 02/22/2018 12:16:30 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Innovative

And President Common Sense does it again.


79 posted on 02/22/2018 1:41:08 AM PST by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service ... #ReleaseTheMemo)
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To: Innovative

Unseal Juvenile Crime- and Mental-Related Records; Make HIPAA Mental Health Records Non-Private; Release School & College Discipline Records If Someone Wants To Purchase Guns, etc. - Make Them Public.


80 posted on 02/22/2018 1:42:19 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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