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Another Mass Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug.. 1,531 Cases of Drug-Induced Homicidal ideation
CCHR INTERNATIONAL -MENTAL HEALTH WATCHDOG ^ | 10/19/2017 | CCHR

Posted on 02/21/2018 1:05:32 AM PST by greeneyes

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To: Strac6

Strac6, everyone who has read your posts knows what you represent. The fact that you would deny that lawyers, in general, don’t believe in objective truth and/or principle, says a lot about you. Anyone who has spoken to an honest lawyer will be told exactly that. The default position in your profession is that rights and laws come from Courts and the government, not from God. Anyone who has spent any amount of time in a Courtroom knows that the whole point is to prevail, not to reveal facts and truth. That is why Democrats and the Republican establishment find it so easy to ignore their oath of office. They are by and large attorneys with zero principles, for whom original intent is maybe a remotely interesting concept to be contemplated a some point in the distant future, if at all. These are the kinds of candidates you think to be preferable, because they get all the big money, positive media, and support from your establishment buddies.

All that said, I am curious why you would play down the concept that virtually all of these school shootings seem to have a Pharma link. Many of us in the pro-gun movement see this as a real concern. Saying that the shooter is just nuts (as opposed to over-medicated) plays right into the narrative that we need gun control to protect our youth.


81 posted on 02/21/2018 3:09:48 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: greeneyes

They wanted the case to go away.

A bipartisan committee of the Nebraska legislature found the allegations to be credible. Their lead investigator’s plane blew up in mid flight, in route to gather evidence.

One high up military guy implicated in the Franklin story was also a central character in the McMartin case. Practicing occultist, as well. Nothing to see there.


82 posted on 02/21/2018 3:21:21 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Freedom56v2

Well, because there have been drugs that were approved by the FDA, but after widespread use, had to be pulled from the market. There is an incestuous relationship between PHARM and FDA.

So, what I figure is that after a drug has been on the market long enough to be generic, there will be plenty of information regarding any side effects, and the “mistakes” will have already been pulled from the market.

So if I needed to take a name brand for the reason you were talking about, I would take it, but only after it has been on the market for a long period of time.

We have so many chronic diseases for which medicine does not cure, it just treats a symptom, rather than a cause. So I tend to try and find a cause, and address the cause, rather than getting stuck on the pill treadmill.

In my own case, I had hyperparathyroidism, this dumps calcium from your bones into the blood. Eventually, every organ in your body is impacted. Twenty years and 12 different doctors.

After thousands of dollars of tests, the first doctor could find no reason for my symptoms, but since I had silent gallstones, perhaps I should have an operation to take out the gallbladder. No thanks.

As time went on, Ins. changed, and schedules changed, and I had to switch docs. Each time I would discuss the various symptoms, hoping for a cause.

Eventually, I got on line, and figured it out myself. Then my GP, argued and disagreed, so I went to a cardiologist, and within 2 visits, had a referral to an Endochrinologist, because he thought the same thing.

The surgeon told me that my osteoporosis should reverse, if I took calcium supplements, Vit D3, and K2. However, he said that there had been too many years of calcium deposits, so there would be little improvement in Blood Pressure.

He also told me that I was in the end stages and would not have lasted much longer. That was exactly why I went to the Cardiologist, because I felt that I was going to wind up in an ER, and be forced to take just any ole available Cardiologist. Within a few weeks of the operation, I felt better than I had for 15 years.

The first dr. that gave me bp meds, did nothing to figure out a cause, and I didn’t question it, because both my parents had the same problem, and I thought it was just a part of getting older. It was a few years later when I began to get other symptoms, that I went to another doctor at Barnes Hospital in St. Louis, spent a lot of money, and got no real answers.

However, the med students all had a grand ole time seeing their first ultrasound of gallstones, until I finally told them I’d had enough poking and prodding.LOL


83 posted on 02/21/2018 3:36:26 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: SecAmndmt

Yes, I read that the legislative committee thought it was credible, and couldn’t get a prosecution. It seemed to me that they published the book to maybe protect their own life.

It’s shocking really that such things have been swept under the rug and allowed to go on for so long. It’s also astounding that Satanic Temples are right out in the open strutting around these days. Some dippy judges have ruled they are just as legit as any other religion - they were cults when I was a kid, and made sure no one knew about them.


84 posted on 02/21/2018 3:42:19 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Strac6

I gave you plenty of other articles regarding the issue. Try reading them instead of blathering on about irrelevant stuff to the issue.

The drug company hid results for several of these products, and did not include any warnings which should have been included. Nor did they make any effort to understand why some of their test subjects became suicidial/homicidal.

I did not say take them off the market. I seriously doubt that the shooters had eaten Todlers creamed spinach the day they went out to shoot someone.

What I said was that additional research needed to be done. That seems prudent to me. And indeed, there is now evidence to suggest that it might have to do with metabolism, so that for some people the cost might outweigh the benefit.

Like I said, pick some of the other articles to read. Become informed, instead of having a knee jerk reaction.


85 posted on 02/21/2018 4:05:44 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: SecAmndmt

I had not read about Antifa angle. I did read that some thought he might have been influenced by ELN due to some of the social media posts/pictures, which has elements of Hezbollah. Hezbollah infiltrated gangs are active in the drug trade and other trafficking in S. Florida.

His background with no relatives, might make him susceptible to manipulation, but if he just pleads guilty to avoid the death penalty, we’ll probably never know if that happened.


86 posted on 02/21/2018 4:14:10 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Stop Flacking for Scientology.


87 posted on 02/21/2018 6:05:58 PM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: SecAmndmt

I am not “in general.” (”Colonel” will suffice)

Yes there are attorneys with zero principles. There are also doctors, accountants, pipefitters and pizza makers with zero principles.

There are lawyers that see the Constitution as changing with the times. In some limited ways they are right. For example, the government cannot censor what you (foolishly) write here. That’s covered under the first amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech and freedom of the press because those two freedoms have been extends to the internet too. But since the Constitution does not mention Radio, but guarantees Rush the unfettered right speak his piece, and Hannity the right to tell us what he thinks, without government interference, although there is no “Freedom of Television” mentioned in the Constitution either, you either have a choice to accept that different lawyers do different things, or give up your right to listen and watch whomever you choose.

The courts, lawyers if you will, preserved those First Amendment rights for all of us. And the ones I worked with, were adamant about protecting the Constitution. A quick flash for you: “Heller v. District of Columbia” was not argued before the courts by a bunch of learned plumbers.

AJSCOTUS Scalia and AJSCOTUS Thomas are lawyers, not taxidermists.

If you don’t like lawyers, tough, but don’t generalize, any more than you would want me to generalize about your profession, because there is no way one could generalize about bathroom cleaners any more than one can generalize about lawyers.

Bottom line, if you don’t like lawyers en mass, get your local bartender to draw up your will for you.


88 posted on 02/21/2018 6:25:55 PM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Strac6

I’m not flacking for anybody. You should take your own advice and stop flacking for Pharmaceutical Companies, who failed to disclose issues with these powerful drugs.


89 posted on 02/21/2018 6:45:33 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Strac6

The problem is attorneys in Congress. No one has a problem with an attorney drawing up a will. The ones in Congress have what, an 11% approval rating with the public? Nice try at dissembling though.

You abdicated any respect I might have had for you as a military person when you started advocating that we embrace swamp critters for Congress because they are “electable”. Moreover, announcing your military rank is supposed to achieve what? (I have a cousin who retired Colonel, and he never addressed himself that way). Petraeus is a General, but he supported the wicked witch of Arkansas...and she isn’t much different that Romney.

I thought you had me on ignore. LOL!


90 posted on 02/21/2018 8:42:54 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

OK


91 posted on 02/22/2018 4:54:46 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: SecAmndmt

PS, you still have not answered the questions is to why you advocate nominating a class of people that history proves fail in the general election.

Since failure in the general election is TOTAL failure, why do you continue to push us to nominate this easily identifiable class of candidates.... unless what you really want is to elect Democrats?

So stop the name calling and personal attacks, and answer a real question... if you can.


92 posted on 02/22/2018 6:56:53 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: greeneyes

Strange, the drug factor was not mentioned at the CNN Town hall last night?


93 posted on 02/22/2018 6:59:00 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem wiath socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Strac6

It’s a loaded question.

When the RNC and affiliated funding groups always support the establishment candidate, and also support incumbents, it is virtually impossible for a real conservative or constitutionalist to win. So the candidates McConnell or Ryan support generally win, and like in the case of Roy Moore, the candidates they *actively* oppose usually lose. The Republican establishment would absolutely prefer to see D establishment winning over someone who will vote strictly with his/her oath of office. That’s why despite the risk of losing AK, for example, the swamp supported Murkowski over Miller, even after she lost the primary and came back as an independent. And that’s why not only did they oppose Moore based on phone 30-year old accusations, but some R’s like Flake donated to the D, or even encouraged R’s in AL to vote D.


94 posted on 02/22/2018 7:29:05 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: TruthWillWin
Not strange for CNN, they are all in on the agenda.

The agenda is to use the emotion generated by these shootings to advance legislation that little by little whittles down and under cuts the 2cnd amendment.

But yes, it's strange that any real concern for solving the problem would not examine all such details.

I'm not sure how many people are even aware of this issue. It's not really reported in the national news, and yet there are articles about it, and settlements as well wrongful death lawsuits by relatives where the Pharmaceutical Companies have been found guilty.

95 posted on 02/22/2018 7:42:42 AM PST by greeneyes
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To: Strac6

You talk about personal attacks, and you write this? Projection.

You presumably support the military? So did Hitler. Stop flacking for the SS.

Many of us non-Scientologist committed Christians are against medicating children. Do you *seriously* think that we should have ~15% of our school population on mood-altering meds?


96 posted on 02/22/2018 8:21:08 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Too bad you can’t answer the question, rather then dodging it and blaming others for your failed strategy.


97 posted on 02/22/2018 10:08:27 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Strac6

You ask the question as though the swamp candidates were on equal footing with conservative candidates, in terms of $ and organizational support.

Despite the odds, we did manage to remove Cantor, didn’t we? I am quite sure you would have supported him. Now, you are support a pro-buggery, pro-abortion, anti-gun, globalist scum for Senate, and you have the gall to tell us that you somehow have standing as a veteran?


98 posted on 02/22/2018 10:23:24 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: SecAmndmt

Do not project as to “how” I ask a question.

Simply answer, or admit, at least to yourself, that you can’t.


99 posted on 02/22/2018 10:59:39 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: SecAmndmt

Your buddy, Strac6 just rode the lightning out of here...


100 posted on 02/22/2018 11:50:05 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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