Posted on 02/17/2018 11:37:45 AM PST by marktwain
In 2017, 771,556,886 passengers traveled through 440 federally secured airports. Of those, only 3,957 forget that a firearm was in their carry-on baggage.
There are over 400 million private firearms in the United States, 16 million people with permits to carry firearms, and 13 states where no permit is required to carry a concealed weapon. That less than 4,000 forgot a firearm in their carry-on is amazingly low.
That is one for every 200,000 passengers.
Just a little over 1/3 or 34.8% of the firearms had a round in the chamber. They could not have been accidentally discharged in the luggage.
TSA says 84% were “loaded”, so 50% must have had rounds in the magazine, but not in the chamber.
Most of the firearms found in carry-ons were brought without the intention of doing so. TSA gives this advice:
If you’re grabbing a bag, suitcase, briefcase, jacket or other item you haven’t used in a while, be sure to give it the onceover so you don’t accidentally take something prohibited to the checkpoint. Many people who have brought guns, ammunition, knives and other prohibited item say that they did so unknowingly. You can travel with your firearms in checked baggage, but they must first be declared to the airline. You can go here for more details on how to properly travel with your firearms. Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure.
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Small handguns are easily lost in the bottom of bags. They’re light and you don’t realize they’re in there. My suggestion has always been: dump every thing out of a bag you want to carry on board then replace what you want.
Yes, and they were harassed to hell. The government then was able to brag about how many criminals they caught, and prosecuted the s*it out of them.
F*ck any government that turns innocent people into criminals simply by passing a law, while deliberately and intentionally allowing real criminals to go free.
Why?
Gets the numbers up, and Whitey doesn’t have an army of free lawyers to defend him.
I am told that in Texas, if you have a carry permit, you are allowed to return the gun to your vehicle, or if possible, in your checked luggage.
“F*ck any government that turns innocent people into criminals simply by passing a law, while deliberately and intentionally allowing real criminals to go free.”
Yes, and a particularly strong f*ck you to the states of NY an NJ, who seem to take great delight in arresting passengers changing planes in their states with handguns, and jailing them. I’m not a big fan of Federal Legislation, but since the 2A is a Constitutional RIGHT, I would favor the Feds preempting all State Laws regarding firearms to prevent blue states from placing illegal restrictions on a Constitutionally protected RIGHT!
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I would favor the Feds preempting all State Laws regarding firearms to prevent blue states from placing illegal restrictions on a Constitutionally protected RIGHT!
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Ummm, isn’t that the whole *purpose* of Fedzilla? To do that which the State(s) cannot, and protect We the People from the abuses from the State(s)?
As you correctly stated, the 2nd is an affirmed inalienable Right (”...shall NOT be infringed.”), should they NOT be cracking down on any govt entity infringing said Right(s)??
Doesn’t need any Fed lingo; the 2nd is already Law of the Land.
“Yes, and they were harassed to hell. The government then was able to brag about how many criminals they caught, and prosecuted the s*it out of them.
“F*ck any government that turns innocent people into criminals simply by passing a law, while deliberately and intentionally allowing real criminals to go free.
“Why?
“Gets the numbers up, and Whitey doesn’t have an army of free lawyers to defend him.”
Yes.
Since FR doesn’t have a “LIKE” button, I made it simple and just reposted what you said.
"...forgotten gun in carry-on..."
“Doesn’t need any Fed lingo; the 2nd is already Law of the Land.”
Yes, but there needs to be a Federal Law in my mind, that specifically supercedes all existing state gun laws. All the $shit about magazine size, AW bans, coupled with the wiping out of all State CCW permitting laws and restrictions on where you can carry and where you cannot. And some very serious law about what cops can and cannot do with respect to dealing with citizens who carry a weapon for self-protection. No more of this shooting someone by simply saying “they felt threatened!”
I agree! I don't have to endure a police interview anywhere in the United States before I can exercise my 1st Amendment rights...or my 5th Amendment rights.
But here in the Gay State (Massachusetts) you must do exactly that before you can legally obtain any firearm.And the local police chief has the absolute power to deny your application...no recourse available if you're denied.
To give an even more disgusting example of the contempt that Massachusetts lawmakers,and judges,have for the 2nd Amendment check out the link below.It was a 9-0 SCOTUS decision striking down a Massachusetts law which was enacted by the state legislature (which has been 90% Rat for decades) and upheld by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (the highest state court).
The inspector came up to me with it in his hand and said, "What is this." I lived in the UK in the past and was very familiar with the laws and they are harsh. I said, "Oh shit!" I explained it was my shooting bag. At this point I was turned over to the metropolitan police at Heathrow for an interview. I explained most politely how the shell came to be in the bag. They were most gracious and then described it as "a spent shell" and sent me on my way. If it were not a "spent shell" they would have had to take action. One of the police looked at it and said in a condescending manner, "You call this a shell?" I declined to tell him what I had at home in the USA.
Good cops just doing their job and using good judgement.
Correct. Those individuals in each and individual state must sue in court those states that are violating their constitutional rights. The less the Feds have to do with it, is the better.
“Heathrow Airport London” One 22 Long Rifle cartridge was discovered in my carry one bag. It was also my shooting bag for the range. It had slipped beneath the bottom layer inside the bag. That same bag hand been in and out of Heathrow many times and without doubt that 22 shell in it.
The inspector came up to me with it in his hand and said, “What is this.” I lived in the UK in the past and was very familiar with the laws and they are harsh. I said, “Oh shit!””
I had a similar “OH Sh*t” moment at an airport in NY. I was away from home and recieved a call about a medical emergency. I raced home removed my carry gun from the bag, repacked and headed to the airport. The trouble was I had forgotten a speed loader full of 5 .44 spl cartridges in the bag. After it was found by TSA they were surprisingly understanding and after some questions and paperwork they sent me on my way (without the cartridges or speedloader. The empty speedloader was returned when I got back.
“My suggestion has always been: dump every thing out of a bag you want to carry on board then replace what you want.”
Wish I’d have done that. My 9mm w 10 round clip had found its way into a fold I didn’t know I had in my leather bag.
During check in I was looking around at all the hubba thinking....wow, someone’s in trouble.
It was me.
They let me keep my gun to return to my car. 3 months later I got a $1500 fine from Homeland Security.
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