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SCHOOL SHOOTINGS: WHY ARE WE NOT HEARING FROM MILITARY EXPERTS?
vanity | 2/16/18 | jobim

Posted on 02/16/2018 8:54:10 AM PST by jobim

Why are we not looking to our military for strategies on how to defend our schools? They are the ones who have the training - no one else does. Shouldn't our focus be on the defense of our schools? How many military personnel have been on TV to be interviewed? None.

Some areas to be assessed:

1) location 2) building lay-out 3) who has access (list of problem individuals) 3) personnel available to look, listen, report 4) response to an invasion

Every school community has a large pool of willing individual volunteers who could give some hours to patrol each week. And one or more armed volunteer personnel trained for response to invasion.

In all the PTA meetings on a million subjects, where is the serious, specific, practical, effective protection of the student "compound"? Lead by a person from the military trained in such operations?


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I have been in the high school & jr/high classroom for 25 years. I have never seen a serious effort to defend a school from such an attack The willing people are there (including teachers). What is lacking is a serious intent to protect, listening to someone with actual training, and working with the community to make it happen. I realize many other details involved, including making state law coincide with liability protection for these school volunteers. But not insurmountable.
1 posted on 02/16/2018 8:54:10 AM PST by jobim
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All government mandated gun free zones should have metal detectors and armed guards at all entrances. “Gun free” and “fortified entrances” need to go hand in glove. You can’t have the one without the other.


2 posted on 02/16/2018 8:56:13 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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Probably because the Military Experts would not recommend disarming the populace, and that is the goal of the liberals.


3 posted on 02/16/2018 8:56:19 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build KateÂ’s Wall! Never Forget!)
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The Hero football coach if he was allowed to be armed I know would have taken Nicolas out.


4 posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:03 AM PST by IC Ken
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I'm a military expert. Just ask me.

There is no military solution to the problem. That is why you are not hearing from them.

5 posted on 02/16/2018 8:57:45 AM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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Bingo. Obama stuffed the Chain of Command with Leftist tools. They require as much purging as the intel agencies and DOJ.


6 posted on 02/16/2018 9:02:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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“Probably because the Military Experts would not recommend disarming the populace...”

Then why was it necessary to scream bloody murder for soldiers be allowed to carry on Army bases? Just saying that it might have been possible to mitigate things like the Fort Hood shooting.


7 posted on 02/16/2018 9:05:08 AM PST by Tallguy
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There are plenty of informed opinions on the subject, however I will interpret your question as meaning why don’t we hear sober, rational, military/security experts on say CNN or MSNBC or their brethren? And my answer would be “do you really need to ask?”.


8 posted on 02/16/2018 9:07:39 AM PST by SpaceBar
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“WHY ARE WE NOT HEARING FROM MILITARY EXPERTS?”

Because the military solution is not acceptable to the civilian thought process. The civilian one is to wait for a conflict to happen, then be shocked, and over react to a way to get it corrected at that place, at that time.

The military expects the problems to happen in a specific place either before we arrive or after it does and we expect more just because we are there. We then shoot people and blow things up getting the problem people caught or killed, expecting collateral damage, and then we stay for a while to try to clean up part of the mess.

These are two different requirements for the issues. Neither one is acceptable for the problem involved for both.

Rwood


9 posted on 02/16/2018 9:10:42 AM PST by Redwood71
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Hearing the opposite from quite a few of the Generals that Obama promoted. They do want the populace disarmed.
They want transgenders in the Army.


10 posted on 02/16/2018 9:11:13 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Because the military has no expertise on this. They have far less than city cops. Likewise for the FBI, they also have less.
You may not have noticed but Ft Hood, Norfolk, embassies, a couple of Air Force bases, and all the mass murders inside secure compounds in Afghanistan.

Mostly out military leaders couldn’t his a bull in the ass with a big base fiddle.


11 posted on 02/16/2018 9:11:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Thank you for your service:

I didn't use the word "solution", as there is no "solution" to rape, drug dealing, etc.

But are you saying that there is no way improve defense of a school?
12 posted on 02/16/2018 9:12:42 AM PST by jobim
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Because they help plan it.


13 posted on 02/16/2018 9:12:47 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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It’s not a military problem.

Israeli schools have limited controlled access.
You have to be admitted.


14 posted on 02/16/2018 9:12:58 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Remember Ft Hood? They weren’t allowed to be armed.


15 posted on 02/16/2018 9:14:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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The military basically lives in a childlike environment of base life where every move is specified by an autocratic leader. They are woefully unprepared to run security at a school where there is no base commander on high to issue commands.

The best example of this is the retired Air Force or Army guy who is always whining to the HOA about the rules needing to be more strict.


16 posted on 02/16/2018 9:15:47 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Probably because the Military Experts would not recommend disarming the populace, and that is the goal of the liberals.

Understood. But the immediate concern, today, tomorrow, next Thursday, is increased protection of schools.


17 posted on 02/16/2018 9:15:54 AM PST by jobim
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Yep.


18 posted on 02/16/2018 9:16:39 AM PST by Eagles6
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To: robroys woman
All government mandated gun free zones should have metal detectors and armed guards at all entrances. “Gun free” and “fortified entrances” need to go hand in glove. You can’t have the one without the other.

I have to go through a detector just to enter the county courthouse and see the clerk of court. All pocket knives, multitools, etc are taken by a deputy at the detector and returned to the owner on leaving. Oh, and there are a number of armed officers there, despite the fact that the actual sheriff's office is not at the courthouse.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but a collection of records, assorted paperwork and lawyers with political connections (we call them "county attorneys" and "judges") need more protection than kids do.

19 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:09 AM PST by niteowl77
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Our military is not geared to protect civilians. The reason we ran over the Iraqis twice in literally days, is because they are trained, equipped and ordered to suppress their own population so the ruling class is protected.


20 posted on 02/16/2018 9:17:41 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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