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Russians debate country's Declining Birthrate over social media
BBC ^ | Jan 30, 2018 | Y. Kiryukhina, K. Idrisova, P. Harrison

Posted on 02/07/2018 11:21:28 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose

The news of Russia's birth rate dropping by 10.6 per cent in 2017 to reach its lowest level in 10 years, despite government measures to boost fertility rate has prompted debate online.

Former Deputy Premier Alfred Koh lambasts Russian authorities in previous years, for attempting to attribute a birth rate rise to Mr Putin's measures, saying it was due to "a generation of people born during a baby boom under Soviet leader Gorbachev that has reached child-bearing age".

Koh argues that the Kremlin should take responsibility for the current situation. In his Facebook post that has had over 700 likes and 100 shares, his reasons for the decreasing birth rate are: "When people's income is falling for a fourth year in a row, when we have incessantly been fighting since 2014, that we have broken off from the entire civilised world and that the poverty in Russia is shooting up".

"By conducting a criminal social policy - cutting down on the number of schools and hospitals, not creating new jobs, driving young families into mortgage servitude for many years, depriving us of simple confidence in tomorrow - do the authorities really want to increase the birth rate in Russia?" one user on Twitter commented.

A popular blogger El Murid said on LiveJournal: "The Kremlin has got nothing to do with the previous spike in the birth rate--people simply lack motivation to have children because you cannot give them anything besides poverty and the feeling of hopelessness..."

"This is a trend that has long been predicted," said one commentator on TJournal.

Some posted sardonic comments regarding the current regime in Russia. A meme that gained over 17,000 likes on VKontakte's (VK) community group page MDK read: "Yeah right. It's the best time to have kids now because the country is flourishing."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: birthrates; demographics; population; putin; russia
Birthrates have hit a historic low in the U.S. and countries throughout the world, but Russia is particularly hard-hit due to a pre-existing demographic deficit left in the wake of the 20th Century.
1 posted on 02/07/2018 11:21:28 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

and in the meantime:

“Birth Tourism brings Russian baby boom to Miami”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121


2 posted on 02/07/2018 11:25:13 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: GoldenState_Rose

One of the goals of socialists/lefties is to reduce the population. Guess it’s working.


3 posted on 02/07/2018 11:25:32 AM PST by fruser1
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To: GoldenState_Rose

I will volunteer my services to help out in this issue with a hot Russian babe.


4 posted on 02/07/2018 11:27:07 AM PST by beergarden
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To: GoldenState_Rose
1) Easy access to birth control (and abortions)

2) Feminism

3) Emasculation of males

4) DECREASED CONSUMPTION OF FINE RUSSIAN VODKA!

5 posted on 02/07/2018 11:28:36 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Fake news...designed to make you feel better about the fact that the number one baby name in Britain is Muhammad.
6 posted on 02/07/2018 11:43:28 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: GoldenState_Rose
" ... but Russia is particularly hard-hit due to a pre-
existing demographic deficit left in the wake of the 20th Century."

Yep. The communists tried their best to murder the country.

7 posted on 02/07/2018 11:51:17 AM PST by StormEye
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Well. It’s time for them to ban “Russian Girls Want to Date You” ads in the US.


8 posted on 02/07/2018 11:53:38 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: mac_truck

“How Islam is Changing Russia”

Russia is becoming increasingly a Muslim country. Out of a total population of over 146 million (including two million in annexed Crimea), it counts about 15 million people of Muslim background—even if not all are believers and even fewer practice Islam. Given forthcoming demographic changes, by around 2050 Muslims will represent between one third (according to the most conservative estimates) and one half (according to the most ‘alarmist’ assessments) of the Russian population. This ‘Islamization’ of Russia—not in the sense of radical Islam but of a rising number of citizens self-referring to Islam—will impact both Russia’s domestic situation and its foreign policy options in the medium and long term. Islam’s growing importance in Russia will shape the future of the country in at least five main directions: the overall demographic balance of the country; the strategy of ‘normalizing’ the regions of the North Caucasus; Russia’s migration policy; Russia’s positioning on the international scene; and the transformation of Russian national identity.

https://jamestown.org/program/marlene-laruelle-how-islam-will-change-russia/


9 posted on 02/07/2018 11:55:23 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Before the birth control pill people used to have a lot of happy “accidents” or “surprises”. Now, not so much.


10 posted on 02/07/2018 12:02:22 PM PST by Crucial
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Nice deflection.

Do you neoliberals propagandists ever spend time writing about how Muslim Europe is becoming?


11 posted on 02/07/2018 12:16:19 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

And out of all of the countries, dear mac_truck, Russia is the *most* Muslim of all largely due to historical realities and acquiring territories from the former Persian and Ottoman empires. Not to mention Central Asia comprised a huge swath of the Soviet Union.

Today, the Kremlin’s decision to relax its immigration laws towards such neighboring countries is defended as being of strategic interest. With their own ethnic demographics in crisis, immigrants are needed to make up for the labor shortfall:

“Workers from Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and Armenia have been exempt (from needing visas) since those countries joined a customs union that Russia formed in 2010.”

Ildar Gilmutdinov, who represents Putin’s ruling party, United Russia, dismisses concerns that loose immigration controls could lead to an increased terror threat.

“The current visa regime and rules of entry guarantee a fairly high degree of security,” says Gilmutdinov, head of the State Duma committee on ethnic issues. A visa-free regime with post-Soviet countries is “Russia’s strategic choice.”

“Russia is experiencing a huge deficit of workforce,” explains Andrey Movchan, “We badly need cheap labor that cannot be found inside the country.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-14/russia-s-alternative-universe-immigrants-welcome


12 posted on 02/07/2018 12:28:55 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: mac_truck

Whooah, what name calling, I guess Oliver North is a “neo-liberal” because he says the same, you got anymore of your dandy $25 words to call others?

Hey, there are threads that are on England, on Sweden, maybe one can try to shame others to shut down their voices too.

Putin pretty clearly, would not even be reelected in free elections right now in Russia.

This is a discussion board.


13 posted on 02/07/2018 12:50:34 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: GoldenState_Rose

1. Don’t murder all your babies you heathens
2. Good. Russia will cease to be a global foe to the United States as it grows ever smaller.


14 posted on 02/07/2018 3:28:32 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: billakay

Pinging to this other piece of news

If you lived there you would know what the realities are on the ground. Its true the economic indicators (including GDP) seem positive-ish but the setup of the system is such that average people are still being robbed of the first-fruits of the economy.


15 posted on 02/08/2018 4:51:37 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: BeadCounter; All
Ollie North...the aging host of “War Stories” is just the sort of flawed icon chick-hawk boomers flock to for vicarious thrills. He's an over the hill, globalist puppet, who ‘entertains’ fools like you for a living.

Gotta love a man who stands by the razor wire tipped fence on the Golan heights, regurgitating Israeli propaganda, but fails to mention the ISIS/Al Qaeda training camps just on the other side of the border.

The United States is through fighting other nations wars and no amount of neo-liberal ‘Putin is evil/Russia is terrible’ hasbara is gonna change the mind of a single American nationalist.

I'll continue to call out neo-liberal propagandists like Rose on this forum, and if you don't like it...bite me.

16 posted on 02/08/2018 6:36:15 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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