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Muslims are Converting to Christianity in Record Numbers
National Catholic Register ^ | Patti Armstrong

Posted on 01/26/2018 1:04:07 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
As somebody new to the faith, why do some people consider the Catholic Church apostate?

It does not teach the gospel of salvation by the faith, but instead substitutes a false system of sacramental works not found in Scripture.

Many of the key teachings of Romanism are pagan in origin.

Romans can trust Christ, but it is harder to see truth when it is covered by falsehood. That is the problem.

And I sincerely wish salvation and eternal life to everyone in every denomination, including Roman Christianity.

21 posted on 01/26/2018 1:29:11 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ealgeone

If they follow the Nicene Creed they are Christians by ancient definition.

By the way your the dry cleaners called and your sheets with the eye sleets are done!

Also I am not Catholic nor do I play one on TV!


22 posted on 01/26/2018 1:29:56 PM PST by Reily
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To: ealgeone
Yes. Catholicism the first Christian Community/Church is the biggest difference.
23 posted on 01/26/2018 1:33:09 PM PST by amihow
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To: HereInTheHeartland
As a Protestant I’m fine with them converting to being Catholic

I'm a Catholic and I know Protestants of many different denominations are often at the front lines of Christian evangelization, and also often in very dangerous places. And I pray they are successful.

24 posted on 01/26/2018 1:35:30 PM PST by PGR88
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To: amihow
Yes. Catholicism the first Christian Community/Church is the biggest difference.

Just not Roman Catholicism...that's the difference.

25 posted on 01/26/2018 1:36:49 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Reily
By the way your the dry cleaners called and your sheets with the eye sleets are done!

Yeah....right.

26 posted on 01/26/2018 1:37:40 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Campion
Christianity and nonstop Catholic bashing ... there is a difference.

Oh please....as if Roman Catholics don't have their daily share of bashing non-Catholics.

Though I do note you did observe the difference.

27 posted on 01/26/2018 1:39:10 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Which is to say 25% off the mark....which is to say 100% off the mark.


28 posted on 01/26/2018 1:39:34 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

You are right, There is a HUGE difference.

The Great Brit Christians had the philosophical brain fart that provided the spark of rights, liberty and freedom in the Magna Carta. This came at the height of the Christian crusades. Once they learned they could own things... then they saw the development of patent law, the buying and selling of ideas, then the development of the sciences, math, engineering etc etc.... leading into inventions and creativity in the industrial revolution resulting in the dominance of Great Britain.

Nobody else did this, no other nations, no other groups of Christians... not those in Rome, not Eastern Christians ....who are as backwards and messed like muslim nations.

So yes, there are huge differences


29 posted on 01/26/2018 1:40:02 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Praise be to God for your new faith!!

I’m Catholic, so I have a rather, let’s say, pointed opinion on the matter.

But I’ll sum it up in this wise. Rewind back to the time o the Reformation. If the Church you were “reforming” called you a heretic and excommunicated you and said you were damned to hell, a prideful and stubborn man might well strike back the only way he could—by attacking the very principle of its authority.

You can wear excommunication from an Apostate Church like a badge of honor. The True Church not so much.

So it’s completely understandable psychologically. Calling Catholicism Apostate is an attempt to mitigate the Reformers’ sin of heresy and schism by saying it was absolutely justified and necessary.

Only problem is that historical evidence for said apostasy is absolutely, categorically non-existent. It never happened.


30 posted on 01/26/2018 1:43:39 PM PST by Claud
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To: ealgeone
Just not Roman Catholicism...that's the difference.

If it's Rome you don't like, do you think you'd fare any better with Byzantine? Celtic? Syriac? Antiochene? Maronite? Coptic? Armenian? Syro-Malabar?

Go look up all the ancient churches that weren't Roman. Let me know if any of them look like where you go on Sunday.

32 posted on 01/26/2018 1:47:21 PM PST by Claud
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To: ealgeone

I’m grateful I was “raised on third base,” instead of in a home of atheists that aren’t even in the right ballfield.

In my experience, converted Catholics are some of the most passionate and grateful Christians.

They know the frustration of false works on the Roman Hamster Wheel of guilt. When their eyes are opened to the grace of God and the totality of Christ’s payment for all their sins, they are relieved and grateful.


33 posted on 01/26/2018 1:49:45 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Reily

It’s funny, I am seeing this Protestant Catholic argument more and more, and it reminds of a bot attack. While Coptic Christians are being blown up by Muslims, while Philippine Catholics and Indonesia Catholics are be slaughtered we are engaging in these ridiculous theological arguments.


34 posted on 01/26/2018 1:50:34 PM PST by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Reily

FYI——sheets do not go to the dry cleaners.:-)

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35 posted on 01/26/2018 1:54:44 PM PST by Mears
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Are you saying Catholics aren’t Christians? I’d take issue with that.

Most of the Roman Catholics I've encountered on these threads and in real life when asked what their faith is reply as Roman Catholic....not Christian.

Are some Roman Catholics genuine believers? Possible.

However, based on how Roman Catholicism teaches one comes to a saving faith in Christ....then no....their view is different than what is presented in the Bible.

One of the primary differences between Roman Catholicism and Christianity is how the Mass or the Lord's Supper is understood.

Roman Catholicism teaches the Mass is a continual resacrifice of Christ where Christ is called down from Heaven to be rendered on their altar not once, but a thousand times.

The New Testament teaches Christ offered a once for all sacrifice for our sins. (Hebrews 10:12-18)

Roman Catholicism teaches that Mary is a Co-Redemptrix upon whom we can cast all of our cares and petitions. Some Roman Catholic writers even say Mary is necessary for salvation....that without Mary's help you cannot come to Christ.

Christianity teaches there is one mediator and that is Christ upon whom we can entrust all of our cares and petitions (1 Timothy 2:5; John 14:13-14; 1 Peter 5:7).

Roman Catholicism teaches you cannot know for sure if you are going to Heaven.

Christianity teaches you can know you are going to Heaven through faith in Christ (1 John 5:13. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.)

Those are some of the major differences.

36 posted on 01/26/2018 1:55:25 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
In my experience, converted Catholics are some of the most passionate and grateful Christians.

Yes....I agree. I've talked with them at my church and have interacted with them here on FR.

They also have first hand experience of the differences between Roman Catholicism and Christianity.

37 posted on 01/26/2018 1:57:11 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The better title would be converting to Roman Catholicism.
Christianity and Roman Catholicism....there is a difference.

I’m reminded of stony Mom would tell me about going to a Polish Catholic Church when she was a young child. The priest would lecture on about how Catholics were better than Protestants, but even those Irish Catholics were suspect. You really had to be a Polish Catholic to be a real Christian. My Mom switched to Protestant when she married.


38 posted on 01/26/2018 1:59:39 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Titus-Maximus; Reily

It’s not bots...it’s been raging ever since I’ve been here on FR...wow, 20 years now! :)

And that’s good. It means we really care enough about these issues. Better that than we simply mumble “Can’t we all just get along” and refuse to deal with them. I don’t find theological arguments ridiculous...they are about important things that should be taken seriously.

Speaking of Nicaea, remember that there was just an iota’s worth of difference between the two sides...but the implications of that iota were huge and gave us the Nicene Creed.


39 posted on 01/26/2018 2:06:08 PM PST by Claud
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To: Claud
And that’s good. It means we really care enough about these issues. Better that than we simply mumble “Can’t we all just get along” and refuse to deal with them. I don’t find theological arguments ridiculous...they are about important things that should be taken seriously.

I agree. It's why I post.

40 posted on 01/26/2018 2:08:13 PM PST by ealgeone
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