Posted on 01/22/2018 7:26:44 AM PST by Paul R.
I believe it is time for Conservative leaders to very directly, very publicly, and very loudly challenge the "Gang of 6", including Senators Graham, Flake, and Gardner, on an easily understandable question:
Why do we need more unskilled and low skill immigrants from ANY country? This especially when millions of US citizens still languish, driven out of the job market entirely. This when any person of any sense at all knows that we face stiff competition around the world. This when companies looking to hire here say a serious problem is lack of competent applicants. Mind you that I detest the practice of some companies bringing in immigrant workers, having their U.S. citizen employees train the newcomers, fire the old employees, and pay the newcomers half. But the other side of that is that I have witnessed directly the benefits of "bringing in" people with special skills, experience, and abilities. They are an asset to our country. In more cases though, I think perhaps we should incentivize employers to train US citizens, and crack down on those who pay immigrants drastically less than citizens, for doing the same or an equivalent job.*
*Such enforcement is difficult, but not impossible. A few highly publicized convictions with increased-to-truly-draconian fines, and maybe serious jail time too, would deter most such activity. The same goes for employment of illegals, of course.
Again, please publicly ask the "Gang of 6": Why do we need more unskilled and low skill immigrants from ANY country? Our public education system gobbles up ever more money, yet continues to fall behind. Our social services are struggling. Health care costs are overwhelming the middle class -- even people who have had good incomes all their lives, and government budgets alike, yet we want to bring in more people likely to put additional pressure on the system? Why? We are straining even our ability to help genuine refugees.
Another question applies to even skilled immigrants: Why do we want to allow in more people, many of whom are likely to send a good part of their income to family "back home"? How should this be addressed?
The US has a (probably understated due to underestimation of illegal immigrants) population of almost 50 million immigrants. That is nearly 16 % of our population, and it is nearly 1/5 of the entire world population of immigrants. Many more would come here if they could, but we CANNOT take in everyone who wants to come here. Just think of the environmental "footprint" alone.
A Democrat memo has come out exposing why most Democrat politicians do not want to support serious immigration reform: They want the votes of a constantly resupplied class of dependent-on-the-government citizens. But people like Senators Graham or Flake, who claim to be conservatives, are a bit harder to figure out. Most of their constituents do not support a continued flood of low-merit immigrants coming into the US, and their voters sure as heck think our southern border needs to be well secured, as in "build the freaking wall now!" And crack down hard on shady US employers. Are you Senators are listening to your big donors who want cheap, dependent labor, instead of listening to your voters?
Immigration has been thrust into the forefront of the national debate, once again. So, I think it is high time for people who can get a nationwide hearing, or at least a very wide hearing, such as Rush, Hannity, Sarah H., and probably President Trump himself, to very publicly get in their faces and ask ultra directly this question of Senators Graham, Flake, Gardner, et al: Why does the US need more unskilled and low skill immigrants from ANY country, be it Norway or Haiti?
The follow up question: Who the hell do you work for? The people? Or big donors?
I believe this IS the hill to die on, so to speak. But will our leaders do it? Do they hear people like us? Or will they go along to get along?
It is the hill that the Democrat-Communists will die on.
Are you Senators are listening to your big donors who want cheap, dependent labor, instead of listening to your voters?
Trump has called Sessions out once or twice already and some freepers had a nervous breakdown (along with most of the media). Jeff is the little man on the wedding cake and about as mobile.
I hope so.
Perhaps I should add that my wife is a legal immigrant, and we have MANY legal immigrant friends in the local community, plus I have worked with many fine techs and engineers from other countries. Anyone who tells me I am "anti-immigrant" I will tell to "put it where the sun don't shine". The same goes for any who are just hateful of any newcomer, even if that newcomer is an asset to our country. But we MUST get some semblance of sense back into our immigration policies, and enforce our laws.
Evidently you missed AG Sessions appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show last week - he was spot on in every way. Its probably available online, but Sessions has always bee the #1 for of illegal immigration and still is. He cannot remove idiot judges.
He has to do something not just talk correctly about a situation. He gives the impression of weakness - that’s a personality problem. Maybe he’s a lion behind the scenes, who knows?
Chain migration has got to come to an end. For 50 years we’ve had unskilled people pouring into this country from all over the planet.
This has absolutely devastated the American working class, all to benefit the elite in the democrat party and fat cat businessmen.
If we don’t fix our insane immigration system now, right now, it will never happen. Do it now!
If companies can accept lower qualified workers in the name of diversity, can’t they accept lower qualified workers in the name of US Citizens getting the job?
Flake, Corker, Hatch, Heller, Alexander, Graham, McCain, Murkowsky, Hoeven, Rubio, Tillis, Burr, Lankford, Gardner, Cornyn, Cochran, Collins, Sasse, Kennedy, Shelby, Ernst and Blunt who are all are in favor of amnesty.
They all work for the Cheap Labor Express and not the citizens.
We need to elect Senators who will represent US (US citizens).
Well... that’s a little different discussion. What I want to see is certain Senators pinned, rhetorically speaking, until they cry “uncle” and “fess up”.
Or, politically speaking (I always love posting this link), Loki as Graham — it really fits the character, doesn’t it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ZjnrHR8EA
Of course, Kruge as Graham or Flake works too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdc0eYL3QJU
Politically speaking.
Agreed. Graham and Flake have been the most visible recently, though, so, I say go after them first. :-)
That’s a perfectly good question.
Flake is quitting rather than be thrown out of office.
The AZ GOP is using Joe Arpaio’s ego to crowd the field to sneak McSally in as the next Amnesty Senator.
Graham isn’t up until 2020.
Heller is the only Amnesty Senator up in 2018 that is not quitting.
Corker and Hatch are quitting.
Heh, I just got a telemarketer call from a company that does septic system work. It occurred to me afterward that maybe I should have talked to them: I am a US citizen, so it sure looks like I have partial ownership of a cesspool in D.C.!
Seriously, I have work and family to attend to. Maybe I can check back in this evening. Have fun with the thread, all, and if anyone has ideas on how to get our visible “leaders” and “voices” to take on the duplicitous b****** in the manner I suggest, go for it!
A waste of time. Flake has principals. When he's bought, he stays bought!
I know. But, there is a battle to be won, right now. Flake likely has higher ambitions. IMO, Graham cannot withstand scrutiny if pressed. Discredit these turds now, and this one can be won.
“Fire main battery!”
Flake was going to lose his re-election bid.
If he has higher ambitions, he’s delusional.
I don’t care about trying “un buy” Flake. Quite likely, no legal means can do that. But if it is made more clear he is bought, or just has a ridiculous argument, he is weakened and can be discredited as a spokesman, in many people’s eyes. If nothing else.
I never said he wasn’t. :-)
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