Posted on 01/14/2018 5:39:08 AM PST by Kaslin
I dont know why this is so difficult. When the president does the right thing, we commend him and encourage him. When he does the wrong thing, with full respect for his office, we express our differences. Is this really so hard?
Thats what I did with President Obama, for whom I didnt vote and with whom I had much more occasion to be critical than to be positive. And thats what Ive sought to do with President Trump, for whom I did vote and with whom Ive had a lot to be positive about and a fair deal to be negative about.
As followers of Jesus, our ultimate allegiance should be to the Lord, to the truth, to righteousness, to justice, not to a party or a man.
We should be model citizens in terms of our conduct, and we should show honor to whom honor is due, as Paul exhorted in Romans 13. (Remember: Paul wrote Romans when the notorious Nero was the emperor of Rome. Yet, as the leader of the empire, he was to be treated with respect.)
But, when push comes to shove, we are not Republicans or Democrats or Independents. We are followers of Jesus. And so, when it comes to speaking the truth to power, we are equal opportunity offenders (although we need not be offensive in our speech; Im just using the expression).
As for our relationship with President Trump, its true that some evangelical leaders have had access to him behind closed doors, and its appropriate for them to address their concerns to him in private. That means that, when he says or does something that is highly objectionable, they say to the public, I understand why there is an uproar over this and I recognize why you are concerned. Be assured that I have spoken to the president about these very matters, and the president gave me a listening ear.
For the rest of us evangelical leaders who do not have access to the White House, if we are going to voice our approval when Mr. Trump does well, we should likewise voice our disapproval when he does poorly. Otherwise, we appear to be flunkies for the president, more committed to opposing the liberal media than for standing for what is right, more interested in political favor than in the smile of God.
Since when we do we lose our voice once we vote for a candidate? Since when do we become yes men once that candidate begins to implement some of our key agenda items? Isnt our witness to the nation more important than the favor of a political leader? So what if liberal Christian leaders often act like flunkies for their candidates. Why should we do the same?
There is no one on the planet more loyal to me than my wife Nancy, but I would be shocked and disappointed if she didnt tell a colleague when asked, Yes, I really disagreed with Mike on that one. We had totally opposite perspectives.
That only empowers her to tell my critics, But you have no idea who he is. You could not be more wrong in your perceptions about my husband.
Her candor when it comes to my mistakes or shortcomings only makes her testimony of my character and strengths all the more believable.
Why cant do we the same with President Trump? Even those leaders who believed that God was raising him up to be our president likened him to Cyrus in the Bible, a man of whom the Lord said, I give a name to you, though you do not know Me (see Isaiah 45:4). In todays terms, we would say, The Lord is using him, even though hes not one of us.
Why must we always act as if he is 100 percent one of us already, as if he were a mature, exemplary Christian, a seasoned man of God?
One evangelical leader who strongly supports Trump called him Gods Chaos Candidate and likened him to a divine wrecking ball. Must we defend everything that wrecking ball says and does? Will not there be some collateral damage that we regret? Why must we whitewash the White House to show loyalty or support?
Nancy voted for Trump with great reluctance, concerned that he would have a divisive, vulgarizing effect on the nation and wondering if that would be too great a price to pay for the good that he might do. (Under no circumstances, of course, was she going to vote for Hillary.)
You could say that her fears have been realized (most recently, with the s---hole comments, with that objectional word now plastered everywhere and repeated non-stop). At the same time, she is totally aware of the extraordinary media bias against the president and she does appreciate the good he has done. She also knows it takes a forehead of steel to do the job.
But when it comes to the presidents recent comments, why cant we say, If this is an accurate quote, we reject it wholeheartedly, and we urge the president to clarify what he was saying and to reach out to the offended nations.
We dont need to parse his words, let alone defend them. We need to show integrity. Once weve done that, we can say, Whats amazing is that the media looked the other way when so-and-so said such-and-such, exposing their hypocrisy and agenda. And then we can say, Where I think the president has a valid point (assuming there is one), is here.
But our first calling is not to defend the president, a man whom I love, pray for, and honor, and a man whose positive actions I deeply appreciate.
Our first calling is to stand as consistent witnesses for our Lord, to be ambassadors of righteousness and truth, and to be jealous for the reputation of Jesus.
Nothing is more important than our witness to a watching world.
>>Why must we whitewash the White House to show loyalty or support?
Because Satan runs our media and schools. Any criticism from us against Trump results in a headline that claims “Evangelicals frustration with Trump is growing” and “Trump losing support of Evangelicals”. They ask questions to see how we feel about 10 different things and 9 out of 10 of us are unhappy with at least one thing on the list and the headline reads, “90% of Evangelicals unhappy with Trump’s policies”.
This is a fight against TRUE evil. Nitpicking the only President who is “God’s Chaos Candidate” is only helping the Enemy.
Must we defend everything that wrecking ball says and does?
The article doesn’t say much about the present state of decay ofthe DemonCrat party. They lie. We are not ignoring or rationalizing Trumps negatives Rather we are cognizant of the fact that there is a full court press of Lying EvIL against him 24/7/365.
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
Romans 13: 1-7
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27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, 28 saying, We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man's blood upon us. 29 But Peter and the apostles answered, We must obey God rather than men. 30
Acts 5: 27-30
Remember Michael Brown making this point during the 8 long years of the Obama administration?
Yeah neither do I... and I bet I know in which side he fell
Ok, please tell us which side he fell...
Hmmm. I guess I view our Presidents tactics more as overturning the tables of the money-changers and calling the perps a den of thieves.
Go on, criticize him enough that he gets replaced by a Rat. And then we’ll either see you squeal like a pig, or more likely, retreat to a dark corner, sucking your thumb.
This is NOT directed at you, K.
Rom 13:1
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2
Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Wow, George Washington and Company are in a lot of trouble.
Yeah neither do I... and I bet I know in which side he fell
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Well, why don’y you get off your lazy a$$ and read the article?
From the article:
Thats what I did with President Obama, for whom I didnt vote and with whom I had much more occasion to be critical than to be positive
Very GOOD, that one! No mortal man is ‘perfect’ They survive by using the wits and abilities GOD gave them.
But when it comes to the presidents recent comments, why cant we say, If this is an accurate quote, we reject it wholeheartedly, and we urge the president to clarify what he was saying and to reach out to the offended nations.
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As Christians, shouldn’t we first ask if the quote is the truth?
Evangelical Christians are called to submit to government, up to a point - that point being when government asks us to choose God’s law and Word over government.
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I think you have that backwards.
Well said. I agree wholeheartedly.
Oh yes - he says that here - remember all the articles he posted about evangelicals should be against Obama?
I dont.
As cucks our allegiance is to losing, because “Muh Principles!”
So you thoroughly googled every article Dr. Brown has written about Obama and listened to every radio show?
I’ve listened to many and consider him pretty rock solid and impressive on Christian theology. He was generally appalled by Obama and spoke it loud and clear. I don’t know what your problem is with him, but you sound ignorant and bitter to me.
As Christians our duty is to be God’s word.
That means we recognize that Trumps statement was not one of hate or racism but one of objective defense of the people here.
If we claim to be so caring about the haitians and africans, let us, ourselves, send our money and resources and time and effort and immigrate there to build up their civilizations.
Because it’s far easier for us to complain about the splinter in Haiti and Trump’s supposed thoughts about that nation than it is us for us to fix the actual problems facing ours. (homelessness, poverty, violence, racism, family break down, sexual sin, drug use, more and more turning from God)
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