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Don’t believe the lies about the US being at ‘full employment’
NY Post ^ | Jan 08, 2018 | John Crudele

Posted on 01/09/2018 5:21:20 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Oshkalaboomboom

If we are at “full employment” with a low labor participation rate, then we need to create the conditions for more non-retirees to want to work — cut Welfare, Food Stamps, Obamacare subsidies, Obama phones, free housing, etc.


21 posted on 01/09/2018 6:07:35 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Bump for later.


22 posted on 01/09/2018 6:09:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The NY Post seems to have found a new appreciation for the same arguments conservatives presented when the mechanism for tracking and reporting unemployment was changed under Obama.

Funny, that.


23 posted on 01/09/2018 6:18:15 AM PST by MortMan (Irony is the opposite of wrinkly.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Raising wages are a lagging indicator. No one will raise wages until all legal and other pressures have been tried. That starts a wage war in a location, and disrupts everything.

Also, as illegals self deport, more openings have to be filled with legal workers. That is a lag.


24 posted on 01/09/2018 6:22:30 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Leep

A certain portion of the ABLE population doesn’t want work.

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Absolutely true. Our government, our education system and a coddling society don’t encourage or prepare people to do productive work. To the contrary, they coddle people and enable them to avoid work.


25 posted on 01/09/2018 6:29:03 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’ll believe there is full employment when I start seeing drastic reductions in welfare payments across the country.


I am not sure if there is a direct correlation between employment and welfare.

There are many that are on welfare that have never and will never go to work.


26 posted on 01/09/2018 6:29:41 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
There are many that are on welfare that have never and will never go to work.

Like my SIL. Where is the logic in giving "disability" to someone who has never had a job and never had any intention of even looking for a job? She's too disabled to do nothing??

27 posted on 01/09/2018 6:50:39 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Further, the question isn't employment, but productive employment and there is where a lot of progress needs to be made. I have no truck with the notion of drone like assembly line no time off for breaks view torwards efficency. Humans are not efficient and that isn't the end for a happy life anyway.

But of the time you spend on your vocation or job, what fraction is misspent doing things that do nothing towards providing goods and services that serve the needs of others. All too much energy is drained meeting requirements imposed by bureaucracies that have nothing to do with any reasonable goal of the organization.

Of course Trump has always gotten that. Even he doesn't work 24/7 and he certainly "wastes" a lot of time on the golf course - and good for him. It means he gets it about enjoying life and spending time doing things that are not intended to be "work." That means that he is not bent on running a federal bureaucracy whose job it is to interfere with the happiness and productivity of the rest of us.

28 posted on 01/09/2018 6:50:41 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: bk1000

Why didn’t your friend call them “The FDR days?” Things got a lot worse after 1932.


29 posted on 01/09/2018 6:57:19 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: shelterguy
Where are the GOOD jobs?

Both the Democrat and Republican parties are involved in the destruction of good jobs. For tech, it's astounding to look into job-postings: I've seen 'entry' level jobs commonly requiring 3 or 5 years of experience… I've also seen 10 years several times. — These postings are highly indicative of the widespread nature of H1B visa fraud. And as for blue-collar jobs, there's a lot working against them because of the horrid burden of regulations and taxes at the federal and state (and sometimes county and municipality) level, combined with the propaganda that everyone needs a 4-year degree (wherein the students are bombarded [by the government] with offers for their student loans which, surprise, are one of the few debts that cannot be discharged via bankruptcy — IOW, there's a big push to get students to enter into a soft, voluntary indentured servitude.)

This is how much the thirst for cheap labor is rampant among our leadership. Make no mistake: the elites wish for ever more control over you and your life.

30 posted on 01/09/2018 7:00:38 AM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I have multiple Engineering Degrees, a 30-year proven track record of success and have been out of work for more than 18 months...mid-50s white male. Exactly 2 interviews during that time. Every technical recruiter will tell you that they have a number of similar candidates that they cannot place. Hiring agents look at us and immediately think expensive.


31 posted on 01/09/2018 7:02:26 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: Vaquero

As much as i despise Obama the rules for discouraged workers came into being in the early 1990’s. It was simply a way to keep unemployment numbers looking lower so politicians could get re elected.


32 posted on 01/09/2018 7:02:38 AM PST by wiggen (#JeSuisCharlie)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"And, if you believe Trump, the economy will do much better now that changes have been made to the tax system. I’ll believe that when I see it."

We saw it after the Kennedy tax cuts.

We saw it after the Reagan tax cuts.

See also: The Laffer Curve...

33 posted on 01/09/2018 7:03:30 AM PST by null and void (Delusionals vs Deplorables. Guess who wins?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

U-6.

Also known as non-persons.


34 posted on 01/09/2018 7:04:28 AM PST by null and void (Delusionals vs Deplorables. Guess who wins?)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Why didn’t your friend call them “The FDR days?”

I really don’t know, as both were before my time. They referred to homeless encampments as “Hooverville” in those days, is about all I know, but he used the term frequently and I never challenged him on it. He said he’d “work in a saw mill from sunup to sundown for .50 a day, and if you weren’t there at sunup, you didn’t make a full day.” LOL! 60 years later I worked in a saw mill, but made a whopping $1.10/hour. A fortune by comparison.


35 posted on 01/09/2018 7:10:11 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: caver

part-time minimum wage jobs but it is a good “sign”...LOL I loved retail except for the non-schedule. Because of the communist healthcare our schedules were different every week. HATED that.


36 posted on 01/09/2018 7:14:04 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

What I’m seeing is that companies are hiring “consultants” and “contractors” rather than W2 employees. Pay can be good and some companies that facilitate for those who don’t have their own business do offer benefits and a W2 status ... for the term of the project.

But the companies aren’t hiring direct and since the service is offered by the intervening company they, the company needing the work, get around the contract ruling the courts made on contracting for a limited time without benefits.

I understand why the companies are doing it, but it definitely shows that the employment climate is much more of a “gig”/assignment situation.


37 posted on 01/09/2018 7:15:39 AM PST by reed13k
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Working-class families are winning big under Trump
Washington Examiner | Jan 09, 2018 | Justin Haskins
Posted on 01/09/2018 4:33:03 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3620765/posts


38 posted on 01/09/2018 7:17:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: oincobx

You’ll notice I specifically limited the ratio to the 25-54 age group.


39 posted on 01/09/2018 7:22:10 AM PST by dangus
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To: Leep
A certain portion of the ABLE population doesn’t want work.

I get what you're saying, but there are also huge disincentives for [some] forms of employment when it comes to creative pursuits. I, for example, work in tech and some of the contracts I've come across are really quite terrible when it comes to Intellectual Property to the point that your employer could claim something you invent completely off-the-clock, and this is without something incriminating like taking five seconds to jot down your idea on a post-it note during work hours.

Honestly, I don't want to work under those sorts of constraints, where the company can steal the results of my creativity.

40 posted on 01/09/2018 7:23:46 AM PST by Edward.Fish
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