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California Considers Placing A Mileage Tax On Drivers
CBS SF ^ | December 11, 2017 at 6:33 pm | Phil Matier

Posted on 12/13/2017 9:52:34 AM PST by Hojczyk

SAN FRANCISCO (KPIX 5) — California is moving closer to charging drivers for every mile they drive.

The state says it needs more money for road repairs, and the gas tax just isn’t bringing in enough revenue.

The state recently road-tested a mileage monitoring plan.

The California Road Charge Pilot Program is billed as a way for the state to move from its longstanding pump tax to a system where drivers pay based on their mileage.

But it’s not just a question about money, it’s also a question about fairness.

State Senator Scott Wiener and others are saying that when it comes to road taxes, it’s time to start looking at charging you by the mile rather than by the gallon.

“If you own an older vehicle that is fueled by gas, you’re paying gas tax to maintain the roads. Someone who has an electric vehicle or a dramatically more fuel efficient vehicle is paying much less than you are. But they are still using the roads,” Wiener said.

“People are going to use less and less gas in the long run,” according to Wiener.

And less gas means less gas tax, and less money for road repair.

“We want to make sure that all cars are paying to maintain the roads,” Wiener said.

One idea would be installing devices that would clock your mileage every time you pull up to the pump or electric car charging station. Or put a tracker on every car.

“The reality is that if you have a smartphone your data of where you are traveling is already in existence,” Wiener said.

None of this is sitting well with drivers such as Joshua Li, the owner of a hybrid BMW.

Li said he saves around $200 a month by not using gas

(Excerpt) Read more at sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com ...


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1 posted on 12/13/2017 9:52:34 AM PST by Hojczyk
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Because NEVER ENOUGH CASH.


2 posted on 12/13/2017 9:53:50 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (FBI: Demoncrat "DIRTY-TRICKS" Department)
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To: Hojczyk

Wrath of Tesla paired with greedy bureaucrats and intrusive social engineers.


3 posted on 12/13/2017 9:54:52 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Uncle Miltie

There is always plenty for illegals and trains to nowhere.


4 posted on 12/13/2017 9:55:08 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Hojczyk

Just like ancient Rome did. What’s old is new again.


5 posted on 12/13/2017 9:55:45 AM PST by Joe Brower ( Les deplorables sont victorieux!)
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To: Hojczyk

So the .12 cents a gallon gas tax wasn’t enough for the thieves running California. Who didn’t see that coming.


6 posted on 12/13/2017 9:56:48 AM PST by A message
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To: Hojczyk

And then taxes on taxes.


7 posted on 12/13/2017 9:57:18 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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so its NOT about using less gas...its not about carbon and its not about globull warming...

its about more money so we can pay govt workers and their private business partners tons more in wages and benefits....

arses....I will not visit Cali ever if this passes...

and now that the feds might be removing all deductions, we can't even work out a plan to deduct all these gas taxes as work related....

this is ultimately not fair for those of us who have to actually go into our job sites and work....(but I'm not in Cali)

8 posted on 12/13/2017 9:57:36 AM PST by cherry
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Electric cars are costing the state in gas taxes! Oh, no! But we’re making sure the earth will be a nice place to live a thousand years from now.

Which makes me wonder does the pope believe Jesus will ever return?


9 posted on 12/13/2017 9:58:18 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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What about if you drive out of state? I recently put over 1000 miles on the car driving in other states. Are they going to charge me for those 1000 Mike’s which didn’t happen on California roads?


10 posted on 12/13/2017 10:00:10 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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It sounds like this should only apply to electric and hybrids. Regular folks are still paying the gas tax.


11 posted on 12/13/2017 10:00:11 AM PST by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Hojczyk
GO for IT!

Tax your sanctuary cities, counties and state out of each and every bit of their livelihoods!

After all, its your money not theirs and you know better how to use it than the mere unwashed peon “workers!”

12 posted on 12/13/2017 10:00:16 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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If they do this, I will put a proposition on the Ballot to make it a FELONY Punishable by 20 years in Prison for ANY Public Employee that uses a Taxpayer Owned or Funded Vehicle for any reason not strictly work related, including driving back and forth to work from home.


13 posted on 12/13/2017 10:00:43 AM PST by eyeamok (Tolerance: The virtue of having a belief in Nothing!)
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To: Hojczyk

Ever since the idea about electric cars came about, people have talked about the need for creative ways to ensure they pay their share for the roads. They can’t just charge exorbitant tab fees on them because nobody would buy them.

I wonder what it means for people from Washington, Nevada and Oregon who drive in California.


14 posted on 12/13/2017 10:01:41 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: cherry

When we moved from Texas to LA back in 1994 my wife went to get car license and she was given the choice of having a smog device on her car or paying a fee. The local behind her was pissed! He didn’t get a choice. And I guess that’s the first time he realized it wasn’t about smog. It was all about money.


15 posted on 12/13/2017 10:02:04 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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Which makes me wonder does the pope believe Jesus will ever return?

This pope would prefer to have Che return.

16 posted on 12/13/2017 10:02:38 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: Hojczyk

Li said he saves around $200 a month by not using gas...?

And the state knows it and wants it!!!


17 posted on 12/13/2017 10:02:50 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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“The reality is that if you have a smartphone your data of where you are traveling is already in existence,” Wiener said.

This could be used to not only tally up how many kilometers in total you have travelled since last filling your tank - it could also be used to determine your destinations, your driving habits, etc.

#signofthebeast666

Fortunately, I have a snappy come-back: "What's this 'smartphone' you keep talking about?"

Regards,

18 posted on 12/13/2017 10:02:54 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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““The reality is that if you have a smartphone your data of where you are traveling is already in existence,” Wiener said.”

Note how individual privacy doesn’t even register a passing thought to these totalitarian thugs.


19 posted on 12/13/2017 10:02:59 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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Since the revenue problem is caused by electric, hybrid, and high MPG cars, only drivers of those cars should pay by the mile.


20 posted on 12/13/2017 10:03:21 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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