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The Supreme Court doesn’t have any good news for Westboro Baptist
Hot Air.com ^ | November 27, 2017 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 11/27/2017 6:35:20 PM PST by Kaslin

The Supremes haven’t begun releasing new decisions yet, but they’re still managing to make news. In this case, it’s not so much what they did as what they opted not to do. A court case out of Nebraska was challenging a law regarding restrictions on protests which interrupt funerals. It takes little imagination to guess that this was aimed directly at Westboro Baptist Church. The church had challenged the law on constitutional grounds but lost their bid in the lower courts. Rather than taking up the task yet again, the Supreme Court declined to hear it and allowed the lower court ruling to stand, keeping the law in place. (Fox News)

The Supreme Court is leaving in place a Nebraska law that bars protests around funerals.

Nebraska enacted the law in 2006. It prohibits protests near a cemetery, mortuary or church from one hour before the beginning of a funeral to two hours after.

Members of the Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church challenged the law but have lost in lower courts. Members of the church routinely conduct anti-gay protests outside military funerals. The protests have been a way of drawing attention to their incendiary view that U.S. deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq are God’s punishment for the nation’s tolerance of homosexuality.

I found myself interested in this case from the beginning and had been wondering how the Supremes would look upon it. It’s one of those ones where your gut definitely tells you one thing, but your rational mind can be uncomfortable with your decision. From the angle of tugging at one’s heartstrings, it’s easy to support this law and all it stands for. Who in the world is supporting the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church beyond their own congregation? People who show up at the funerals of soldiers carrying signs proclaiming how much God hates them and their families fall somewhere on the sympathy scale near child molesters and the bubonic plague. Particularly when speaking of a God renowned as a God of Love, it’s certainly curious to talk about all the people He hates.

But what they’ve been doing, hateful as it is, clearly qualifies as protesting. As long as they’re not physically attacking anyone and staying on public property they have every right to put their message out there just as much as any other group. To be true to our dedication to the actual meaning of the First Amendment (and not the “new” version preached on campuses these days), we have to remember that unpopular speech is the most critical speech to protect. That includes everyone from the Klan to Black Lives Matter and everything in between.

So how do we justify a law which says that protests will not be allowed on public land within a given block of time before or after a particular event? With this decision as precedent, might some other state pass a law forbidding protesting near the site of fundraising events for organizations you may disagree with? If you can’t protest near a funeral, can you similarly be barred from protesting near a wedding? How about a Satanic Black Mass held in a public park?

You can see how we’ve just opened a can of worms and placed it on a potentially slippery slope. Barring the exercise of free speech around one type of event – be it ever so abhorrent – opens the door for many other possibilities. I’m glad to see Westboro Baptist take it on the chin here for purely selfish reasons, but in the long view of history the Supreme Court may not have done us any favors.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: democraticfalseflag; gays; homosexualagenda; military; nebraska; protests; scotus; supremecourts; wbc; westborobaptist
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To: Kaslin

Oh those Burros.

Among other things suggesting that God is mad at a people group that has about as little to do with the problem being protested as anything.


21 posted on 11/27/2017 9:54:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Are these funerals public or private events?

Excellent question.

It depends: If in a public space (ie municipally owned cemetery) it is public; if in a mortuary or privately owned cemetery definitely private.

The grey area involves houses of worship (privately owned but considered "public buildings" for some zoning/taxation/codes purposes); irrespective the sidewalks and streets surrounding are definitely public.

The First Amendment can be very messy.

22 posted on 11/27/2017 9:59:36 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: lacrew

This could affect my plans for HRC’s service.
= = =

Make sure you stock up on ExLax.


23 posted on 11/27/2017 10:27:36 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, Ipotherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: a fool in paradise

There needs to be a group that follows the WBC website and routinely alerts local activists to show up, surround and shield from view, the serious ass-kicking they receive.

I’m sure they wouldn’t be disturbed by local LEOs (standing back-to)

They need to be driving home bleeding, with splints, heads bandaged, and with no hint of who to sue.


24 posted on 11/27/2017 11:04:54 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: Kaslin

So, perhaps maybe a hundred or so protestors continually outside Westboro ‘s maven like “occupy whatever” would be okay too. Free speech and assembly and all.... Maybe throw in a dozen Harley’s and a bunch of rock music and perhaps a handful of port-a-potties.....

Only problem would be finding folks who could take lots of time off from work etc- yeah, the rest of us actually produce value, rather than simply consuming others’ labor.


25 posted on 11/28/2017 4:45:35 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: lacrew

Post of the morning!


26 posted on 11/28/2017 8:11:33 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
There needs to be a group that follows the WBC website and routinely alerts local activists to show up, surround and shield from view, the serious ass-kicking they receive.

The Patriot Guard Riders have been protecting families from the Westboros for the past 12 years, and performing many other kindnesses for the troops and their families.


27 posted on 11/28/2017 8:18:40 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

I’m fully aware of the PGR and it’s mission.

However, I’m advocating for somebody a little less kind. I’m pretty sure the PGR would never interfere to protect the WBC from a well-deserved ass-kicking, unless it was a rogue PGR member.


28 posted on 11/28/2017 8:59:59 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: Albion Wilde

I figured the post funeral line to urinate on her grave would be too long.


29 posted on 11/28/2017 11:13:01 AM PST by lacrew
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To: morphing libertarian

When someone is having a private funeral, I would also include the funeral route and the land abutting the procession during the duration thereof. It is common decency.


30 posted on 11/28/2017 12:12:51 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

I agree i like when a bazillion truckers or others show up to support the family and block westboro


31 posted on 11/28/2017 12:47:02 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: Kaslin

Why don’t lefties sue the hell out of them for saying God hates homos?


32 posted on 11/28/2017 7:05:42 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Maybe they don’t because they hate God?


33 posted on 11/28/2017 7:39:28 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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