Posted on 11/21/2017 7:31:21 PM PST by Kaslin
Have a hankie as you leave.
Look up the word “Justice”. Justice is the Queen of Virtue so all “Just” laws have to be virtuous simply by DEFINITION.
Words matter. I know that Marxists destroy language-—as Wittgenstein explains. control of Language (and therefore, the narrative) will control the Mind-—as Lenin knew it would.
That is why the Marxists (Fabians) like the boy-raper Keynes, created “systems” like economic ones, “educational” brainwashing ones, etc., to get total control of all perceptions and “thinking” of little children (with help of movies/TV—all controlled by CFR/CIA), to create a NWO—where children are so programmed, dumb, and brainwashed, it is impossible for them to be rational and logical for everything they “know’ is artificial and irrational—removed from reality (Natural Family/natural laws) and Truth (God/Reality/Science).
The children actually “think” they can become the opposite sex now and “think” two males sodomizing each other is “good” and “Natural” as is drugging the body and mutilating it, or that motherhood is evil and filthy and stay-at-home mothers are dumb and ignorant and slaves of males. (Emotions always rule reason when children have their emotions controlled by artificial means/institutiona—controlled environments where free association and free play are impossible so the Mind is NOT mapped as God designed (to be rational).
Bye again.
all “Just” laws have to be virtuous
To refrain from enacting punishments for vice is not to enact an unvirtuous law.
I sound like a broken record. Reread my earlier posts. I said it is NOT POSSIBLE to have a free society with people of vice. It is either a tyranny or in total chaos, for free markets are impossible as is most human interactions. There is NEVER any trusting of evil people—ever—because they habituate sin and using other human beings in vile ways which destroys dignity and virtue in human beings—using them as a Means to an End (pure Marxism).
Only virtuous people can have a civil, free society. SO-—it can have the LEAST amount of intrusive “laws’. You can ONLY have limited government with virtuous people (Natural Law Theory)-—you don’t NEED Laws or courts or prisons etc, if all people are virtuous (treat all humans with respect and dignity (which includes all their private property)!!!!!
Not relevant to whether there should be laws against any particular vice - unless you want to claim that a law against vice can turn people of vice into people of virtue.
People of virtue don’t need laws at all.
Your point is irrational and mute. Without virtue in people you get Afghanistan—.a place where a civil free society is impossible even though they have draconian laws and thousands of controlling laws on every single subject-—although they have a vice system so slavery, polygamy, pederasty and pedophilia are “good” and normalized. There is no freedom in a country like that-—it is a Darwinian one where the most evil and ruthless get to the top.
Yes-—public virtue laws always makes people of questionable character always think twice about doing evil. I never did drugs because is was illegal-—and I thank God that it was illegal just because I could have destroyed my life and future children ‘s lives but it made me think twice.
Same with theft laws.....was tempted as kid but would never simply because of laws against it. Civil laws..
ROTFLMAO! That's "moot", o widely-read one.
Yes-—public virtue laws always makes people of questionable character always think twice about doing evil.
Do people of questionable character become virtuous because they think twice about doing evil due to the possibility of civil punishment? Sounds like a pretty feeble "virtue" to me.
Same with theft laws.....was tempted as kid but would never simply because of laws against it. Civil laws..
Huh - I never stole because I knew it was wrong.
LOLOLOLOL
I meant your point is dumb (mute), not “moot” but either would work. It was nicer than saying you were so dumb, though, O, widely read one.
I know LOTS of people especially as children who didn’t steal because of the laws and they were afraid of the police finding them. I prove your point is WRONG with personal anecdotes and you just ignore it. MY WHOLE life was affected because of “just laws’ which reinforced a virtuous mindset. You need culture to reinforce wisdom, a virtue, in people.
but either would work.
Not really.
In most cases I would agree, but NOT when I am typing to certain dense individuals, where Boys are Girls and Up is Down and Mute is Moot.
ROTFLMAO! That's "moot", o widely-read one.
I meant your point is dumb (mute)
Don't embarrass yourself any further. Or do - your call.
MY WHOLE life was affected because of “just laws’ which reinforced a virtuous mindset. You need culture to reinforce wisdom, a virtue, in people.
But just a few posts ago you said, "People of virtue don’t need laws at all." So which is it?
LOLOL. You know what I meant so what is your problem? Are you a typo police man now????? LOL-—I have better things to do than take precious minutes proof-reading everything I rapidly type and lots of times I type their for there but on “posts”, it really shouldn’t matter if the meaning is clear which it obviously was to you. BTW—for you I really was thinking “mute” (dumb) since I am never a perfect Christian.
You are totally ignorant of the concept of human nature (from Natural Law Theory). As Christians rightly put it we are born with original sin-—and so we are fallen and it is NOT possible to be “perfect” as Marxists think we can. Since we are fallen and can’t be perfect, we NEED some government (laws) and a “Justice” system to settle disputes in a rational, just (virtuous) way.
Only Jesus was perfect-—with PERFECT VIRTUE. He needed NO LAWS!
Man needs laws-—and we have them—God’s Laws and if we obey ALL of them, we would be PERFECT and need NO human “laws”. Our Founders all knew we weren’t perfect—and that is why Just Laws can only promote “public virtue” because we tend to be lazy and vice is easier. It is easier to steal the food from a farm, than put in the effort and work of the virtuous farmer.
[post #86, in reply:] People of virtue don’t need laws at all.
[post #92:] we are fallen and it is NOT possible to be “perfect” [...] Only Jesus was perfect-—with PERFECT VIRTUE. He needed NO LAWS!
So you thought the question in post #85 was whether a law against vice can turn people of vice into Jesuses?! ... Actually, I can almost believe you did think that.
Since we are fallen and can’t be perfect, we NEED some government (laws)
This lends scant support to the claim that we need a law against private consensual adult sodomy (including marital).
that is why Just Laws can only promote “public virtue”
As often as you drag out the "promotion" straw man to beat, I will point out that to refrain from having a law against a behavior is NOT to "promote" that behavior.
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