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Alaska urged to prepare for North Korean nuclear attack as residents told to have emergency stash...
The Mirror ^ | 15 NOV 2017 | Michael Havis, Stephen Jones

Posted on 11/17/2017 6:10:12 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Radagast the Fool

Do your own preps and shelter in place because we’ve shut down all the civil defense shelters. Start digging that bomb shelter before the winter freeze.


41 posted on 11/18/2017 5:40:54 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Freedom56v2

Makes you wonder about those people who have never cooked a meal in their apartments.


42 posted on 11/18/2017 6:03:01 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Daniel Ramsey
"I live in Big Lake"

A little too aqueous for my taste although I'm guessing it's frozen solid by now?

43 posted on 11/18/2017 6:06:23 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: DuncanWaring
DuncanWaring :".. people living out in the bush, and there seem to be a non-trivial percentage that are absolutely dependent on gasoline
brought in from the outside to run their generators."

I agree ! I am sure they use 'Stabil', 'Starbrite', or some other petroleum stabilizer for long term storage.
I always thought that Diesel made more sense for long term stocking, except that in frozen temperatures, it gels up, and is unusable until it is heated and liquifies.
I am a firm believer in multi-fuel generators, lanterns, and cook stoves (ie.: gasoline/ natural gas/ propane); conversion kits are available thru Harbor Freight, and elsewhere.

44 posted on 11/18/2017 6:07:18 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

It also pays to know what recipe ingredients can be substituted for others. Example - cream cheese and eggs will spoil quickly so use those ingredients to make a type of bread or noodles in the early days and save the pantry stable flour and dried pasta for later.


45 posted on 11/18/2017 6:11:55 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill
bgill :" ..cream cheese and eggs will spoil quickly so use those ingredients to make a type of bread or noodles in the early days
and save the pantry stable flour and dried pasta for later."

Good point ! Some 'everyday ingredients' that we are accustomed to have quicker expiration dates, especially when lacking refrigeration.
Learn to improvise, adjust, and adapt - .. as our parents did !

46 posted on 11/18/2017 6:46:42 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: outofsalt

Never freezes solid, its hardly frozen enough to walk across.


47 posted on 11/18/2017 6:57:39 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

Looking at the weather for this week, I can’t believe it doesn’t freeze! https://www.bing.com/search?q=weather%20in%20wasilla%20alaska%20right%20now&FORM=EDGSH3&refig=0d17bce2ede543a4a3c64cbb05c46d88
Alaska is amazing! It is in the top three vacation destinations of my life. (Egypt and Coastal Brazil at the others) Of course, I was there in mid June.


48 posted on 11/18/2017 7:20:45 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: Freedom56v2; vpintheak; Tilted Irish Kilt; TigerLikesRooster

I wasn’t disrespecting Alaska. I loved it when I was there, and found the people to be independent as a rule. To think some bureaucrat or newscaster could tell them anything is ridiculous. Not one of my Alaskan friends could ever be found unprepared for any eventuality. What outsiders call prepping was simply living—in the bush and even in Anchorage.

I was in Alaska (and some select real estate in the Aleutians) during the last NORK crisis in 1994. Few people knew of the situation then, and fewer remember today. If Carter hadn’t gone and illegally negotiated a treaty, or if Clinton hadn’t acquiesced, we wouldn’t be facing a nuclear enemy today.

My remark about Alaska was simply stating that there are more high-profile targets in range if they can hit y’all. Most Americans have no idea of Alaska beyond the history channel and couldn’t find Anchorage or Fairbanks on a map.


49 posted on 11/18/2017 7:44:06 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: antidisestablishment

Aleutians ... Shemya?


50 posted on 11/18/2017 7:49:45 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Used to be called that. It’s Eareckson Air Station now.


51 posted on 11/18/2017 8:12:26 AM PST by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Some of them don’t do long-term storage; they burn it as fast as it gets there, and if a shipment is delayed they’re ood-scray.


52 posted on 11/18/2017 8:14:32 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Freedom56v2
From what I have read, during normal conditions, stores only have 3 day supplies...can you imagine what would happen to that family in the event of an emergency?

Well, now that they know you're responsible - I assume on day 4 they'll come a knockin' to your door...

53 posted on 11/18/2017 10:24:54 AM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

There’s pretty much no such thing as a nuclear bomb shelter. There are fallout shelters :-)


54 posted on 11/18/2017 11:37:36 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca)
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To: GOPJ

Well, now that they know you’re responsible - I assume on day 4 they’ll come a knockin’ to your door...

LOL I was very careful not to go into my stock of supplies...

Just said bought them at the Dollar store and that they are a good deal. True btw...The package of 6 offers 27 hours of light for a dollar. Good deal IMHO.

Frankly, if someone merely knocks wanting lighting, sending them off with a $1 box of candles is easy-peasy...


55 posted on 11/18/2017 12:04:28 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz~Thx Kalamata ;))
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To: bgill

Makes you wonder about those people who have never cooked a meal in their apartments.


Yes, or the people who to to the food market nearly every day!


56 posted on 11/18/2017 1:32:22 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz~Thx Kalamata ;))
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To: antidisestablishment; Freedom56v2; vpintheak; TigerLikesRooster
antidisestablishment : "I wasn’t disrespecting Alaska..Not one of my Alaskan friends could ever be found unprepared for any eventuality.
What outsiders call prepping was simply living—in the bush and even in Anchorage."

I understood that, and it was what I took away from your previous post; prepping is a life-style.
With today's mobile society, many of us are geographically far removed from our previous support group called family, and have to rely more on our own resources.
That is why there is renewed interest in many skills and trades that have been long ago forgotten or ignored (ie: home canning, fermentation, smoking/salting meats, etc.)
"Rugged individual" survival skills now seem to rely more on camping skills and equipment, bushcraft, gardening, and hunting;
little thought is given to when those resources and equipment deteriorate, or become non-existent.
That is why we need to learn how to adjust, adapt, improvise, and prepare prior to any emergency or personal issue.

57 posted on 11/18/2017 1:44:03 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: MayflowerMadam

When I lived there, many of the people are prepared with emergency stashes of everything, anyhow. If you live even a little bit remote, which is just about everywhere, even if just a couple miles out of town, it could br critical during weather issues.

Also, a lot of people learned to do this after the ‘64 earthquake when they had no drinking water, and couldn’t buy food, for days. My aunt would fill used Clorox bottles with water and stash them, then re-fill them with fresh every month.

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Yes, most people in Alaska are a special breed—very independent—tho there is a large group dependent on the government—primarily Native Americans from what I have seen. Even dependents are hardier than many down in the lower 48.

Wish people in the lower 48 would do a better job of preparing! A couple years ago, a DuPage County (affluent) suburb of Chicago, had the power go out for several days—caused by a summer storm (I believe.). There were news stories about no A/C (it was in summer), losing all food in fridge, flooding, etc. As it is a large metro area, it was not difficult to drive to a neighboring suburb and buy supplies, etc...but still was somewhat of a drill on how to survive in a hardship situation.

Don’t think to many people in other suburbs got the message that they need to prepare...Pity! I watch the news of tornadoes, hurricanes, flooding, ice storms, etc. and am just amazed that people won’t put a few dollars a month into being prepared.

I have spoken to the Emergency Management Dept. supervisor in my town (adjacent to the town that I described above), and he says it is not a matter of if, just a matter of when we have a major disaster, and he truly wishes people would be more proactive.


58 posted on 11/18/2017 1:44:32 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz~Thx Kalamata ;))
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To: antidisestablishment

I wasn’t disrespecting Alaska. I loved it when I was there, and found the people to be independent as a rule. To think some bureaucrat or newscaster could tell them anything is ridiculous. Not one of my Alaskan friends could ever be found unprepared for any eventuality. What outsiders call prepping was simply living—in the bush and even in Anchorage.

I was in Alaska (and some select real estate in the Aleutians) during the last NORK crisis in 1994. Few people knew of the situation then, and fewer remember today. If Carter hadn’t gone and illegally negotiated a treaty, or if Clinton hadn’t acquiesced, we wouldn’t be facing a nuclear enemy today.

My remark about Alaska was simply stating that there are more high-profile targets in range if they can hit y’all. Most Americans have no idea of Alaska beyond the history channel and couldn’t find Anchorage or Fairbanks on a map.


Oh, I did not think you were disrespecting Alaska...just that a lot of people seem to think there is nothing up there, and while there is a lot of open spaces, there are important targets there.

~~I was in Alaska (and some select real estate in the Aleutians) during the last NORK crisis in 1994. Few people knew of the situation then, and fewer remember today. If Carter hadn’t gone and illegally negotiated a treaty, or if Clinton hadn’t acquiesced, we wouldn’t be facing a nuclear enemy today.

That must have been a very trying time! Really wonder what fatboy Kim is capable of...Of course we would win in a war, but is he crazy enough to start one?

Again, I cannot imagine living thru that crisis up there—so close! And yes, very little said about it—thanks Carter. Eh not!

Agree, most in the lower 48 know zip about life up there.


59 posted on 11/18/2017 1:52:06 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz~Thx Kalamata ;))
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To: MayflowerMadam

Oh BTW, meant to ask where you lived in AK? When?


60 posted on 11/18/2017 1:55:00 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz~Thx Kalamata ;))
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