Trump and Putin 'agree to defeat IS in Syria'

BBC News ^ | 11/11/2017 | BBC

[GoldenState_Rose]

Have you lived in Russia? I love my time in that country too much to let your logic go unchallenged.

Russia had the opportunity to the standard bearer for Christianity and it botched it. Putin is no better than those NWO-ers you are railing against and all his Kleptocrat oligarch cronies have their trillions of dollars stocked up in accounts inside the very Western banks owned by the illuminati-types you are decrying. And as usual the Russian people are left to suffer for it as they and their resources have been plundered.

The Orthodox Church is split between statists and genuine lovers of God. Its not uncommon to see icons of Jesus next to portraits of Lenin/Stalin in the homes of some of “the faithful.” Putin has made it ok for Soviet nostalgia to be revived.

As I have said elsewhere on the forum:
HIV is an epidemic in Russia.
Abortion rates still among the highest in Europe.
Birth rate falling again. Demographics in crisis.
Chechnya and Dagestan republics bastions of Islamic radicalism.
Orthodox figures and Putin have taken their anti Western rhetoric so far that they’ve claimed Orthodoxy as more in common with Islam than Western Christianity.

[Bishop_Malachi]

The Russians will have to get in line behind the U.S. in an attempt to establish one-world government. The only country that I see projecting power around the globe right now is Uncle Sam. The Russians are a way distant second.

True Communists will NEVER be friends of religion. The Orthodox Church has suffered greatly under the Communists. The only thing that Christianity and Communism share is their desire to be worldwide movements. In the end, the two will always collide because one is rooted in God the other in man.

Just curious, would you rather have Putin or Obama as your leader?

[ETL]

Just curious, would you rather have Putin or Obama as your leader?

Both are evil, disingenuous phony bastards who's goal is to undermine the US at every turn and bring it to its knees. Main difference is Obama's an idiot, Putin, in comparison, very intelligent.

[Bishop_Malachi]

Almost every thing you said about Russia you could say about the U.S.

What is the U.S. the “standard-bearer” of? Almost all our leaders (except Trump) are NWO types. The biggest difference between us than them is that we are actually considered THE LEADERS of the NWO movemment. The Russians are a far distant 2nd behind us as a world power....not even close.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I just thought of something: We no longer have to listen to B.Hussein calling ISIS “ISIL” every two seconds. That always annoyed the F out of me because he DELIBERATELY included the “Levant” as way to include Israel in it as if Israel had ANYTHING to do with those animals, but nope, B.Hussin constantly used it “uh uhuh eyesul eysul uh uh uhh eyesul”

[Bishop_Malachi]

Both are evil, disingenuous phony bastards who’s goal is to undermine the US at every turn and bring it to its knees. Main difference is Obama’s an idiot, Putin, in comparison, very intelligent.

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The U.S. is a long way from being “brought to its knees”. On the other hand, the U.S. is in the process of bringing other nations to their knees and establishing puppet governments from Iraq, Syria, Qatar, North Korea, and various African countries too. In fact, it’s kinda hard to find a place where the U.S. doesn’t have a footprint today.

[Zathras]

This is the MAIN reason the left opposed Trump.
Both Putin and Trump understand that radical Muslim endangers the entire planet.
Every country it has touched, has begun a spiral downward and once they get a foothold, they are never evicted without war.

[ETL]

the U.S. is in the process of bringing other nations to their knees and establishing puppet governments from Iraq, Syria, Qatar, North Korea, and various African countries too.

The US is in the process of establishing a puppet government in North Korea? And, even so, why would that be a problem? Would you prefer Putin remain the puppet master that he is there, as well as in Iran and Syria?

[ETL]

This is the MAIN reason the left opposed Trump. Both Putin and Trump understand that radical Muslim endangers the entire planet.

Oh really?

Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran's Quds Force leader

September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com

As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran's Quds Force commander - their chief exporter of terror - and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ..."

The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran’s proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ..."

Officials who have monitored the build-up say they've seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants - some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/
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Pro-Hezbollah Paper: Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah Form Alliance

Sept 23, 2015

A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. "The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon's Hezbollah as the fifth party,"

Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the "4+1 alliance", a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad's regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/22/report-russia-partners-with-hezbollah.html

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August 2015

[ETL]

This is the MAIN reason the left opposed Trump. Both Putin and Trump understand that...

Since Putin props up every US-hostile far left or outright communist regime on earth, the Left is obviously in HIS corner. This despite all his smoke & mirror KGB/FSB-like various deceptions.

[mac_truck]

You're honestly trying to make me believe that you missed the part about the ROC being the "largest member of the [COMMUNIST] World Council of Churches",

From the WCC website:

"The World Council of Churches is a fellowship of churches which confess the Lord Jesus Christ as God and Saviour according to the scriptures, and therefore seek to fulfil together their common calling to the glory of the one God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit."

That's an odd vocation for a bunch of commies, don't you think?

[ETL]

From the WCC website:

"The World Council of Churches is a fellowship of churches which confess the Lord Jesus Christ as God and Saviour according to the scriptures, and therefore seek to fulfil together their common calling to the glory of the one God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit."

That's an odd vocation for a bunch of commies, don't you think?

Of course, as the phony organization that it is, they would state such things on their website. That is precisely the point: they are MASQUERADING as a legit religious operation. They are no different than 'reverend' Wright's fake church.

But then you don't genuinely care about the truth because you are and have been for years here a diehard KGB Putin supporter and apologist. Whether or not you're one of the many internet trolls on Moscow's payroll or you sincerely and misguidedly support and trust that ___ on your own is besides the point. The outcome is the same.

[maine-iac7]

you replied to ETL’s book-length excerpts against Putin/Russia thus: “ I recognize that you’re passionate about your religious issues. That being said, I was brought up by a Russian Orthodox mother. It’s impossible to regard Russia reaffirming its roots in the Church as a negative.

Wouldn’t time and energy be better spent objecting to the possible demise of Roman Catholicism because of Muslim takeover of Europe and a false Pope?”
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(I tend to listen closer to someone like you who was ‘on the ground”.)

I say to your post: “Exactly.for every one of ETL’s negative excerpts, I could I “post” an opposite one supporting Russia and Putin’s great role is reestablishing the Church in Mother Russia...and putting the brakes on the NWO/Soros, etc...(one tiny example: since Putin first took office, they have built/restored 25,000 Christian churches)

Putin was raised by his mother as a ‘closet Christian.” She had him baptized, secretly, as a baby.(He always wears the small cross she got him during a trip to Jerusalem when he was young. There’s a great story with that little cross.)

Putin has kicked out the NWO, Rothschild, and has a standing arrest warrant on Soros. He does not persecute gays but forbids them from adopting, public demonstration or teaching their lifestyle, particularly in schools.

This should give people a clue as to why the forces here as so adamant in keeping Putin and Trump apart. If Putin and Trump join forces against the NWO, Rothschild and Soros - GAME OVER.

So - the question begs: ARe we going to get on board and flush the NWO, etc, out of existence - or are we going to sit back and let the evil minions destroy world freedoms and our country, (which we would never get back) or are we going to back Trump and Putin to defeat them - and Drain the Damn Swamp?

We have this ONE shot and it’s the 11th hour. We have a leader who is NOT part of the Swamp, not owned nor can be bought, bribed or intimidated by the NWO. He’s not a ‘professional politician’ nor a lawyer, taught to lie as second nature. The NWO minions have permeated both parties - and very hard to trust any of them - SESSIONS come to mind. Deliberate or no, he’s the kingpin protector of the NWO Swamp slime - and their leaders, the Bushes, Clintons, and all their lackeys. (I get a chill every time I listen to the short clip of papa Bush avowing success of the NWO: “And when we’re successful..and we WILL be” - and see the photo from decades ago - 1983 - of Papa Bush at home in Maine, at a patio table with a young Bill C. and George Wallace next to him. They’re a cabal)

So - who’re y’all gonna fight with?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNTcAezDl0

Papa Bush and the NWO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txukr5zgHnw

Papa Bush with young clinton and Geo. Wallace - at home - 1983 - Get the picture?

https://www.snopes.com/photograph-clinton-bush-wallace/

[catnipman]

“Trump and Putin just agreed an alliance which is explicitly anti-Marxist.”

not sure about the anti-Marxist alliance, but definitely anti-Muslim ... Muslimism is even a bigger problem for Russia than the U.S.

[GoldenState_Rose]

I said when USA is weak. Rusaia failed to take the opportunity to truly lead. Living there, it was depressing to experience. And mark my words: the Putin system is crumbling and you will know it when it happens. It wont be to the level of 1917 Revolution, but major societal upheaval is brewing.

[Reily]

I don’t think Putin is any sort of Neo-Marxist. I think he is a neo-monarchist. You know a Brooksist, a Mel Brooksist, “It’s good to be the king!”

Putin is not our pal but he’s not necessarily our enemy!

[Hot Tabasco]

Could something big be coming?

If you add the fact that Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are requesting all their citizens in Lebanon to come home, I think something big is going to happen.......

[Bishop_Malachi]

And, even so, why would that be a problem?

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If you have to ask yourself that, how are you any different than any other interventionist?

[catnipman]

“Putin is not our pal but he’s not necessarily our enemy!”

that sounds like a good way to think about it ...

[ETL]

You’d rather have the Russians as the puppet masters in North Korea? I just strongly prefer a pro-US, pro-West leadership there. That’s all.