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New Jersey Governor - Guadagno vs. Murphy
Real Clear Politics ^ | RCP

Posted on 11/07/2017 10:49:24 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue

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To: TangledUpInBlue

I predict it’s going to be much closer than 14 points, and I wouldn’t consider it outside the realm of possibility for Guadagno to win. Even though it is a deep “blue” state, New Jersey frequently elects GOP governors because the turnout is so low in these off-year elections.


21 posted on 11/07/2017 11:12:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Jack Ciattarelli.

Jack.

Assembly Jack Ciattarelli of Somerset County should have been the NJ GOP gubernatorial nominee. Period.


22 posted on 11/07/2017 11:13:40 AM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: siamesecats
It’s raining here now (NJ). Doesn’t that usually mean low Democrap turnout?

Dead people don't care about rain. Especially in the PRNJ (People's Republic of New Jersey).

23 posted on 11/07/2017 11:14:07 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: laconic

Summit’s Union County should go for Guadagno.


24 posted on 11/07/2017 11:14:42 AM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: siamesecats
PA and NJ are lot a like. Mainly Republican but get outvoted by the big cities most of the time.


25 posted on 11/07/2017 11:17:12 AM PST by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Union County, N.J. has some conservative havens:

Westfield
Cranford
Summit
Springfield


26 posted on 11/07/2017 11:18:30 AM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: laconic

Look I know New Jersey quite well it is a great state except in the surrounding Newark area. It is painful to watch New Jersey die economically. It is following in the footsteps of California going down hill. And MS-13 gangbangers are having a ball. They think they died an went to heaven. they are jumping for joy today as a brother Democrat Governor is at hand!!!

Anyone with half a functioning brain wants to get out of New Jersey as fast as they can. The problem is, they have made their own bed and now they must lie it.

As far as their bitching relative their taxes...they should have learned a basic long ago...”there is no such thing as a free lunch”. Casting your vote for the Democrat buffoon running for governor is chaining you into economic slavery...I love the state...but there are tons of idiot voters, always looking for a government freebie. You...Joe and Jane taxpayer are the fools!!! Sad, sad, sad!!!


27 posted on 11/07/2017 11:19:57 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Wait! Did you actually think the Rep had a chance? Seriously?


28 posted on 11/07/2017 11:20:46 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: JoSixChip

It’s the other way around: high tax states like NY, NJ, CA, CT, and others subsidize low tax states. You can look at the Federal revenue charts if you like - be my guest. I posted a thread yesterday from the Weekly Standard titles Kill The Bill. Go read it. It has hyperlinks too. And, high tax states like NJ get back 68 cents or so back in every dollar they pay to Washington. Some states get back $7 or $8 from Washington for every dollar they pay. And since when is expressing an opinion around here “whining.” Oh, I know: when you want that opinion shut down.


29 posted on 11/07/2017 11:21:08 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Sorry New Jersey. You are toast.


30 posted on 11/07/2017 11:22:24 AM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

You left Jon Corzine out of your timeline, between McGreevey and Christie.


31 posted on 11/07/2017 11:22:47 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Williams

Except being a founding member of ADP


32 posted on 11/07/2017 11:24:25 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree. The undecideds are significant in those polls. If they go red and/or some blue don’t bother to vote, she can win.


33 posted on 11/07/2017 11:26:03 AM PST by glenduh
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To: blackdog

Deductions, whether you like them or not, are the cards we are dealt with from our masters in Washington. What do you think tax accountants and tax lawyers do? What do you think businesses do by itemizing? Also, if you had massive medical expenses, and the GOP wrote the bill to eliminate that deduction (which by the way, the House bill just did), then I imagine you would not like that very much. The current GOP bill is a huge tax INCREASE for millions of Americans. Let me ask you: since when did Conservatives believe that raising taxes on the middle class was a good thing?


34 posted on 11/07/2017 11:26:17 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: laconic

could secede and join Pennsylvania.....BITE YOUR BALLS!!! We are trying to give you misfits Philadelphia!


35 posted on 11/07/2017 11:26:23 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I know what you are saying but it doesn’t change the dynamic - there are too many votes in Northeast NJ that want more government spending and too few votes in the counties that I enumerated that can block them from making them pay for it. That is and sadly will be the ruin of the State, 80 percent of which is still one of the greatest places in the US in which to live.


36 posted on 11/07/2017 11:26:25 AM PST by laconic
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To: Alberta's Child

Oops. I blame post traumatic stress causing me to black those years out.


37 posted on 11/07/2017 11:26:39 AM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: SkyPilot
Excellent point.

Since taxes tied to income have become the primary source of revenue for the Federal government, densely-populated areas where the cost of living is high have inevitably become the biggest "donor" areas when it comes to comparing Federal taxes paid with Federal spending.

It's a simple function of a progressive income tax system, where middle-class people in places like New Jersey, New York City, Connecticut, California and most of New England get pushed into upper-class tax brackets because of the high cost of living and higher wages paid to people in these areas.

There's no reason to feel sorry for them, though. The easiest way to fix this imbalance is to move to a more flat income tax structure, and these are areas of the country where voters are pathologically opposed to such a thing.

38 posted on 11/07/2017 11:28:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: pepsi_junkie
LOL. I'll always remember that dope for his place on one of the best New York Post front pages of all time:


39 posted on 11/07/2017 11:31:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Jim Robinson

We’ll see. But polling can’t be wrong every time.


40 posted on 11/07/2017 11:32:41 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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