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1 posted on 11/02/2017 2:20:28 AM PDT by markomalley
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Brilliant


2 posted on 11/02/2017 2:24:26 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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What interesting observations! Very good article.

One thought provoking passage was this: “The ‘Enlightenment’ is a parasite, it will not survive the death of its host. But it is strong enough to weaken the West to the point where its traditional external enemy the Islamic Ummah can strike the killer blow.”


3 posted on 11/02/2017 2:28:16 AM PDT by livius
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I reject the premise out of hand. Christianity is not just a better religion than Islam; it is it's very antithesis. Christians worship Jesus Christ, savior of mankind and God made flesh.
Islam worships a pedophile who promotes a monster whose attributes seem to eerily reflect the biblical description of Satan.

The lumping of Islam with Christianity or even Judaism is obscene and repugnant. They may have some superficial aspects in common but in their totality are as different as night and day; from the perspective of Christianity, Islam isn't even a religion. One might as well liken a swimming pool to a septic tank; they may share some aspects but the result of jumping in them will be dramatically different.

4 posted on 11/02/2017 2:42:30 AM PDT by stormhill
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Forced conversion is a tool of the devil. Albeit it has been used a few times under Christianity, the key word is a “few”. It’s common practice in Islam. It’s been used as a matter of course for 1300 years.


5 posted on 11/02/2017 2:48:27 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Bump


6 posted on 11/02/2017 3:41:16 AM PDT by circlecity
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BfL


7 posted on 11/02/2017 3:41:26 AM PDT by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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worthy read


8 posted on 11/02/2017 4:05:18 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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Every Muslim I know is a better person than Mohammed. And every Christian I know is a worse person than Christ.


10 posted on 11/02/2017 4:51:30 AM PDT by Claud
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I'm not arguing against the idea of the foundational importance of Christianity to the rise of the Western World; and I'm certainly not arguing against the existence of the Trinity. I believe in both.

But I do not understand this statement, that is the logic behind the conclusion

"God is also Three so plurality is not an unfortunate side-effect of being a creature that can be stamped out if we just have a big enough government. All the genius of Western philosophy, politics, science and art flows from the Trinity.

17 posted on 11/02/2017 7:41:40 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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Okay. Here I am being the you-know-what in the punch bowl again.

No religion can be judged by standards external to itself because G-d and G-d alone is the standard of what constitutes "good" and "bad." I find it absolutely astounding that chrstian conservatives seize upon the eighteenth century "enlightenment" that so hated them and apply those same anti-G-d, secular standards to religion with which they themselves disagree. Am I the only consistent "fundie" on this forum???

Religion has one and only one purpose: to be true. It does not matter if it adheres closely to or strays far from rationalist, secular standards of "morality." It does not matter if it preserves or destroys civilizations. It does not matter what sort of standard of living it produces. It doesn't matter how many or how few scientists or philosophers it spawns. And civilizational/cultural/ancestral loyalty means exactly bo diddley squat.

If chrstianity is true, then everyone (regardless of ethnicity or culture) should be chrstian. If it is false, then no one should be. If islam is true then everyone should be moslem and if not no one should be. But to pick a religion based on whether or not Locke, Voltaire, Paine, or Jefferson would have liked it? That's as ludicrous as picking a religion because it is the traditional one of one's homeland.

Were islam to be true, it wouldn't matter how many people it blows into smithereens, because its "gxd" would be the sole standard of right and wrong. Ditto chrstianity or any other religion.

I maintain that all new religions are the creations of men and are objectively forbidden. Rather G-d gave commandments to Adam and Noah that are still in force and by which we are all bound to this day. The definitive revelation is still the Revelation to Israel at Mt. Sinai. That this goes against one's family/national tradition or rationalistic prejudices means nothing whatsoever.

How many so-called "conservative chrstians" on FR actually believe that their religion is true? Because their adherence to it often seems to be based on every reason other than that.

20 posted on 11/02/2017 10:04:29 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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As Jesus said, “They will hate you because they hated me first.”

Not a direct quote - sorry, but from my memory.


21 posted on 11/02/2017 11:04:17 AM PDT by Gumdrop (She made her bed and is now lying in it.)
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