Posted on 11/02/2017 2:20:28 AM PDT by markomalley
Brilliant
What interesting observations! Very good article.
One thought provoking passage was this: “The ‘Enlightenment’ is a parasite, it will not survive the death of its host. But it is strong enough to weaken the West to the point where its traditional external enemy the Islamic Ummah can strike the killer blow.”
The lumping of Islam with Christianity or even Judaism is obscene and repugnant. They may have some superficial aspects in common but in their totality are as different as night and day; from the perspective of Christianity, Islam isn't even a religion. One might as well liken a swimming pool to a septic tank; they may share some aspects but the result of jumping in them will be dramatically different.
Forced conversion is a tool of the devil. Albeit it has been used a few times under Christianity, the key word is a “few”. It’s common practice in Islam. It’s been used as a matter of course for 1300 years.
Bump
BfL
worthy read
The bottom line is that Christians go to Heaven and everyone else goes to Hell.
Every Muslim I know is a better person than Mohammed. And every Christian I know is a worse person than Christ.
“The bottom line is that Christians go to Heaven and everyone else goes to Hell.”
Nice to see that in print.
Jesus is our salvation.
What we Christians have is a RELATIONSHIP with GOD.
We are RECONCILED to Him.
'Religion' will entangle a person every time.
Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
All 'religions' are constantly changing; bending and flowing with the will of their pactioners.
Excellent!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Luke 2:25-35 (NKJV)
25 And behold, there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon, and this man was just and devout, waiting for the Consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26 And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27 So he came by the Spirit into the temple. And when the parents brought in the Child Jesus, to do for Him according to the custom of the law, 28 he took Him up in his arms and blessed God and said:
29 “Lord, now You are letting Your servant depart in peace,
According to Your word;
30 For my eyes have seen Your salvation
31 Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples,
32 A light to bring revelation to the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”
33 And Joseph and His mother[a] marveled at those things which were spoken of Him. 34 Then Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary His mother, “Behold, this Child is destined for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign which will be spoken against 35 (yes, a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.”
But I do not understand this statement, that is the logic behind the conclusion
"God is also Three so plurality is not an unfortunate side-effect of being a creature that can be stamped out if we just have a big enough government. All the genius of Western philosophy, politics, science and art flows from the Trinity.
I agree that the sentence is nonsense.
Maybe it is a metaphor for plurality in ideas, or something? I just don’t know.
No religion can be judged by standards external to itself because G-d and G-d alone is the standard of what constitutes "good" and "bad." I find it absolutely astounding that chrstian conservatives seize upon the eighteenth century "enlightenment" that so hated them and apply those same anti-G-d, secular standards to religion with which they themselves disagree. Am I the only consistent "fundie" on this forum???
Religion has one and only one purpose: to be true. It does not matter if it adheres closely to or strays far from rationalist, secular standards of "morality." It does not matter if it preserves or destroys civilizations. It does not matter what sort of standard of living it produces. It doesn't matter how many or how few scientists or philosophers it spawns. And civilizational/cultural/ancestral loyalty means exactly bo diddley squat.
If chrstianity is true, then everyone (regardless of ethnicity or culture) should be chrstian. If it is false, then no one should be. If islam is true then everyone should be moslem and if not no one should be. But to pick a religion based on whether or not Locke, Voltaire, Paine, or Jefferson would have liked it? That's as ludicrous as picking a religion because it is the traditional one of one's homeland.
Were islam to be true, it wouldn't matter how many people it blows into smithereens, because its "gxd" would be the sole standard of right and wrong. Ditto chrstianity or any other religion.
I maintain that all new religions are the creations of men and are objectively forbidden. Rather G-d gave commandments to Adam and Noah that are still in force and by which we are all bound to this day. The definitive revelation is still the Revelation to Israel at Mt. Sinai. That this goes against one's family/national tradition or rationalistic prejudices means nothing whatsoever.
How many so-called "conservative chrstians" on FR actually believe that their religion is true? Because their adherence to it often seems to be based on every reason other than that.
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