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Doctor Comes Up With Dumb Idea To 'Curb Gun Violence'
townhall.com ^ | 10/27/2017 | Beth Baumann

Posted on 10/28/2017 5:48:05 AM PDT by rktman

Following the Las Vegas Massacre, Dr. Faren Wintemute, the Director of UC Davis' Violence Prevention Center, has called on physicians across the nation to play a role in curbing gun violence.

According to Wintemute, his colleagues should make a pledge to ask patients about firearms in the home and gun safety, as he detailed in the Annals of Internal Medicine Medical Journal.

One thing Wintemute doesn't take into account? How truthful people are.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; docsagainstglocks; obamacare; secondamendment
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Good luck there dimwit. Proof once again (as if you need reminded) that somebody has to finish at the bottom of the class. "No doc. I don't chew gum so why would I have any gum in my house?"
1 posted on 10/28/2017 5:48:05 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

How about “it’s none of your business?” for an answer.


2 posted on 10/28/2017 5:50:58 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: rktman

If my doctor’s ever asked me the question, “Do you have firearms in your home?”, he/she will get answers like, “I live in Wisconsin, any further questions?”, or, “Try breaking in and find out”. That should about do it for the questions.


3 posted on 10/28/2017 5:54:02 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Pravious

Are you asking about the gun in my back pocket or the one in my shoulder holster?

BTW: My doctor carries too. A relative doctor carries even though she was anti-gun. Now worries about being robbed or kidnapped.


4 posted on 10/28/2017 5:54:49 AM PDT by oldasrocks (rump)
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To: rktman

The VA asks me this regularly and I lie blatantly.


5 posted on 10/28/2017 5:54:50 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (High taxes + Government = Disorganized Crime)
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To: rktman

So doctors are as stupid as the rest of the empty-head liberals? The cause of violence is a DECISION in the mind, not the stupid gun! It’s the f*cking software, not the hardware! All their years of training had the desired effect: to keep them from having an original thought.

Why do some people attack and assault others? It’s their lack of a value system. Don’t you get it? the leftist school system has successfully broken into smithereens the value system that was given by parents.


6 posted on 10/28/2017 5:56:57 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: rktman

Turn doctors into gun police? The left is desperate to criminalize gun ownership; that is their real objective. Not because of guns bit because they despise dissidents.


7 posted on 10/28/2017 5:58:03 AM PDT by Spok
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To: I want the USA back

You’d think these asshole docs would ask questions like, “do you ever think about killing conservatives because they think differently than you?”

Those people are the ones that need to be pointed out and have a footnote placed into their “official medical record”.


8 posted on 10/28/2017 6:01:38 AM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison...like yesterday.)
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To: Spok

If I remember correctly, someone in FL sued to keep this from happening there when the antis tried to have it enacted. I believe it was held that docs may not ask. Anyone? Bueller?


9 posted on 10/28/2017 6:02:11 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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A few years ago I was the one who took our 2 kids for their annual wellness check.

He sat there with a laptop going through a questionnaire. There were questions about eating habits and whatnot.

Then he asked about firearms and I said it was none of his business. He needed a yes or no answer. I lied. Then he asked, if we do own weapons are they stored securely.

Anyway, it was obnoxious. A few years later I took the kids again and there was no questionnaire.


10 posted on 10/28/2017 6:07:56 AM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: Spok

This push to question patients on guns started years ago. Also to get pediatricians have kids rat on their parents.


11 posted on 10/28/2017 6:10:45 AM PDT by lizma2
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To: Pravious
The VA did this a couple of years ago when I went in to Urgent Care for some antibiotics to get rid of a persistent chest congestion and cough.

During the triage, the first thing I was asked by the medical provider was not what are your symptoms but instead, "Do you own a gun?"

I was stunned and taken aback. I was in there to get medical treatment for my constant coughing and bronchial congestion and their priority was to find out if I owned any guns?

I politely looked at the provider and replied, "That's none of your business."

They replied that is was a new priority with the VA system and they were required to ask the question.

I replied that they had asked their question, now they should get on to doing their job of treating the medical issue I had.

No one at the VA has ever asked me that question about owning a gun again. I'm sure most veterans replied the same as I did, probably in a less polite way than I did.

Doctors should treat their patients' medical symptoms and not be involved in political issues like gun control.

12 posted on 10/28/2017 6:12:05 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: oldasrocks

My doctor takes my employer, the county judge, hunting every year. Yes, all the sons go, too.


13 posted on 10/28/2017 6:13:30 AM PDT by healy61
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To: rktman

At one point the do-you-own-firearms question was on my doctor’s medication update sheet. Even though I has one in my pocket I said, “no.”


14 posted on 10/28/2017 6:27:23 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: rktman

Ah, but they could ask the kids. Have the kids turn in their parents.


15 posted on 10/28/2017 6:28:06 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: healy61

But it was unfortunate... that boating accident. :(


16 posted on 10/28/2017 6:29:24 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: rktman

It is a legitimate question for a few patients - but not practice wide.


17 posted on 10/28/2017 6:30:09 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: rktman

I’ve been waiting for that question but it hasn’t happened yet.

If and when it does, I will respond with a question of my own:

In the last reported year, how many patients died as a result of medical errors of omission or commission?

I would follow up asking if he knew that death as a result of medical errors was the 3rd (behind heart disease and cancer) leading cause of death in the US?

If he persisted, I will finish him off with:

How many patients died as a result of medical errors that were successfully covered up or went unreported by the medical profession?


18 posted on 10/28/2017 6:31:58 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: rktman
When I lived in Baltimore my primary care provider was part of the Johns Hopkins system. And I never saw my actual doctor but always saw the same physician’s assistant who I affectionately called “Dr. Dave”, and he was the best, really. For a time after I moved to York, PA I was still going down to Baltimore to see him for my annual and for my HBP meds, etc. I was so sad when he retired.

Anyway, starting way back in the early 2000’s when went in for my annual physical, one of the questions they started asking was whether or not I had any guns in my home.

The first time “Dr. Dave” asked me this question, I gave him a funny look and he said, “Yes I know, stupid question and I’m sorry that I have to ask. So I’m just going to mark it down as “No” since “MYOFB” is not an option on the form, although it should be”. I told you he was the best “doctor”.

I can however see some instances where the question could be relevant or a legitimate concern, such as if the patient is telling their doctor or mental health provider, not that they are just feeling a bit sad or depressed or even have ever had thoughts of committing suicide, but having a plan to act on it, or having serious thoughts of doing harm to others, hearing voices telling them to kill people, etc. But in those cases, involuntary commitment to keep them safe from harming themselves or others is IMO not unreasonable.

But OTOH, if someone wants to do harm to themselves or to others, guns are not the only option. Remember that Susan Smith and Andrea Yates killed their children by drowning them. In fact, most women with mental problems who kill their children use knives or drowning or suffocation.

19 posted on 10/28/2017 6:32:44 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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“Doctor, that is a boundary violation. Please complete this form:”

http://www.2ampd.net/Articles/horn2/Firearms%20Malpractice%20Form.pdf


20 posted on 10/28/2017 6:35:28 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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