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The Poor Will Be Worse Off: It’s not possible to design a truly egalitarian health-care system
National Review ^ | 10/11/2017 | By Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry

Posted on 10/11/2017 8:16:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: equality; healthcare; poor; poverty

1 posted on 10/11/2017 8:16:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Lie! I have been in healthcare for decades. The poor use much much much more healthcare for illnesses that we gather up the strength to go to work with.
Sure not every doc takes Medicare. Fix that problem. I see Medicare patients accessing top specialists while I am going broke from a surgery that I had to have to continue work. No specialists for me.. too expensive for me.


2 posted on 10/11/2017 8:22:41 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Egalitarian?” You mean take money from those who earn it and give it to those who don’t?

The left is obsessed with “equal” outcomes for unequal input. They live to take all the money earned by smart, creative, driven people and give it to dumb, moronic, lazy slobs.

That’s “egalitarian” for them.


3 posted on 10/11/2017 8:31:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even in countries that have gone down this road it is devolving into a tiered system. One level of basic, pedestrian care for the indigent, and another for those with resources to pay for it. Likely that is where we will shake out as well.


4 posted on 10/11/2017 8:44:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

“It’s not possible to design a truly egalitarian health-care system”

Free markets are egalitarian.

Socialism is elitists and exclusionary, contrary to what liberals believe.


5 posted on 10/11/2017 9:05:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The system that will give the widest possible access is Free Market medicine with the government totally uninvolved beyone its Constitutionally mandated function of guaranteeing weights and measures which can legitimately include
truth in labelling. The poorest will have greater access because the price of medicine will be far lower and real charities will take up the slack for serious illness as they did before large scale government involvement. It will be better of the poorest because emergency rooms and clinics will not be clogged with simple colds and minor discomforts and people there for social reasons.


6 posted on 10/11/2017 9:16:07 AM PDT by arthurus
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The rich congress people didn’t mind keeping their Obama care exemptions...Progressives in congress had NO PROBLEM getting better health care than the poor...Progressives,democrats and liberals,are lying sacks of s### ...+...


7 posted on 10/11/2017 9:27:23 AM PDT by Hambone 1934
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who are “the poor”?

those down on their luck for a time- few years?

those who worked but for some reason (family/injury/situation?) just don’t have enough to cover healthcare costs for everyone they are responsible for?

those who don’t care to work as much as they could? (either lazy, addict, etc reasons people prioritize over working to fully support themselves)

those who work but squander their money on things they want but don’t have money for essentials like health care needs/insurance?

those who just want things (food, utilities, housing, health care, etc) for free?

I don’t think many people at all should be poor their whole life. Enabling and hand outs keep many people “poor”.


8 posted on 10/11/2017 10:37:37 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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"C'est pire qu'un crime, c'est une faute."

LOL - an elitist take on '"Qu'ils mangent de la briocheCARE'... I'm sooooo embarrassed for this man. This is silly.

Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry has added a new level of insanity to the debate: 'let them eat cake Care' which is one step more insane than 'DoctorCare (where laws are written to help doctors live with the benefits of being a doctor in the 1950's while using the advantages of modern medical technology. (Like a minor with a pick ax being allowed to charge the same prices per ton while using modern mining machinery)

Or Jonathan Gruber's 'InsuranceCare' - - accountants TELL doctors how long a patient can stay in a hospital based on 'averages' and the money flows to people who have zero understanding of patient care... or PharmCare (obvious) or GovernmentCare - (a badly run version of InsuranceCare...) etc etc. So now we have 'let them eat cake if they can afford it Care and if not well, we'll eat cake and THEY can 'adjust to their station in life'... .

Yes, there is an answer - it's 'HealthCare' and it's cheap and better - - we're almost there (within a few years). So keep the system open to change and the good choice will happen. And this man - Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry? He can eat crow.

9 posted on 10/11/2017 11:34:11 AM PDT by GOPJ (IF Mexicans rob a bank should their "innocent DREAMERS" be allowed to keep the money?)
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Conservatives say that if you let the market work its magic, everyone will have the health-care equivalent of a BMW. Progressives want the government to buy everyone a BMW. In reality, whatever we do, most people will get a Honda, and only some will get a BMW. This is tragic, but that this is tragic should not make us willing to delude ourselves that it can be otherwise.
There is a third variable: time. It is widely understood that if socialists had instituted price controls on computers back in Apple II days, we would still be living in an Apple II world. It is only because of elasticity of demand that the resources necessary to develop modern chips have been dedicated to that work, resulting in “Moore’s Law.” The same phenomenon has been going on in health care; the primary reason why an American secretary today would have to think long and hard about changing places with Queen Victoria is that although Victoria was fabulously rich, health care as we now know it did not exist and could not be bought for any price. If it could have been, she would not have been a widow the last 20 years of her life.

To attempt to give everyone “BMW medicine," even if successful, would be to condemn future generations to never having anything better than present-day “BMW” medicine. The irony of calling socialists “Progressives” is that their nostrums assume away the possibility of progress.


10 posted on 10/11/2017 1:19:31 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Great post on a great article.

Thanks!


11 posted on 10/11/2017 8:44:09 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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>>who are “the poor”?<<

democrat voters irrespective of income or citizenship status.


12 posted on 10/12/2017 8:52:57 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (ALL records destroyed/faked, books rewritten, statues renamed, dates altered and more.../1984)
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