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Why Should We Care About ‘DREAMers”?
Townhall.com ^ | September 24, 2017 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 09/24/2017 5:01:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

I know Democrats really want us to care about the so-called “DREAMers,” illegal aliens brought to the country as children by their illegal alien parents. And the media desperately wants us to care about them, too. It trots out hand-picked illegals to tell their sad tales of woe, detailed stories designed to tug at heartstrings and trigger emotion to override logic. But one question remains: Why should we care?

To be honest, I don’t. I know that’s not socially acceptable to say. Politicians in both parties are falling all over themselves to be seen caring about the fate of these 800,000 illegal aliens benefiting from the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program. President Barack Obama willed into existence with his magic pen. But I just don’t. At least not all of them.

I care about Americans. I care about people who came here legally. I care about our laws and the Constitution.

The beautiful thing about the liberty we enjoy in the United States is we are free to change our laws or amend our constitution should our elected representatives choose to do so. When President Obama created DACA he circumvented the very system the Founding Fathers invented to do just that. That’s why I don’t care.

President Obama said at the time that if Congress wouldn’t act, he would. Then he changed the law with his pen.

This unconstitutional usurpation of power was encouraged by Democrats before he did it, and cheered after. When President Donald Trump reversed it, Democrats were outraged.

In defense of Obama’s actions, and to defend against Trump’s, some said the former president had to act. When asked about subverting the role of Congress, Rep. Ruben Gallego, D-Ariz., said: “That's why the executive order was in place after failing so many times to make sure that people had protection from deportation.”

An illegal alien “DREAMer” named Victor Erives Jr agreed, telling Jake Tapper, “I believe he (Obama) did the right decision, because Congress didn’t do anything to help us or put us in a legal status. But let's remember we tried to do that, and the DREAM Act came in as executive orders because it failed back in the day, when it did not get through the Senate.”

Both men miss the point, or more accurately, they confuse the point.

There has been a push to pass the DREAM Act, in one form or another, since 2001. It has never passed Congress. Yes, that sounds simple, but that’s only because it is.

Congress not passing a bill, rejecting a bill, is not “refusing to act.” It is Congress acting.

There is no obligation for Congress to pass anything but a budget, and it pretty much has refused to do that in the last decade. When presented with the opportunity to grant legal status to illegal alien children, Congress repeatedly has said no. That choice, that refusal to pass legislation, is action. It’s obviously action some people disagree with, but so are a lot of the actions congresses and presidents have chosen to take.  

Congress said no. No means no.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California said this week the parents who came to the country illegally, dragging their kids along with them and creating this awful situation for them, “did a great thing” by ignoring our sovereignty and breaking our laws. Left unsaid by Pelosi or any of her allies in the media is when she was Speaker of the House, she and her Democratic colleagues could have passed the DREAM Act, if they wanted to.

From 2009 till 2011 Democrats, led by Pelosi and former Senator Harry Reid, D-Nev., could have passed anything they wanted – the DREAM Act, total and complete amnesty, renaming the country “Amnestyville” – and they didn’t. Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, yet did nothing. They “acted” to keep the issue alive for electoral purposes.

Those chickens came home to roost for Pelosi, who ended up being shouted down by a group of “DREAMers” at a press conference she tried to hold in San Francisco. Obnoxiously, these entitled brats who’ve been empowered by Democrats to be “victims,” demanded not only amnesty for themselves, but for their parents and every other illegal alien as well.

This is where they lose me and why I don’t care.

These pampered and pandered to brats deserve nothing.

I’m inclined to support the ability of some to stay on a case-by-case basis – for those who meet standards of education, accomplishment, not having broken any more laws, honorable military service, etc. – on the condition their parents never, ever are granted legal status. But activists – people here illegally – who demand the privilege to stay, to have a say in, if not control over, the political process of a country they’re in illegally? Those people need to go.

That may sound cold, but they’ve earned it. Anyone with that sense of entitlement won’t become a productive member of society, and productive members of society are the only people we should consider for permanent entry into the United States.

So even though we’re supposed to care, I don’t. I’ll feel as badly as everyone else when hand-picked stories are told for their emotional impact about individuals, but I won’t have my logic overruled by emotions. I care about the Constitution, and I care about Americans. This country has a door – come through it, through the process and I’ll welcome you with open arms. I’m even open to extraordinary circumstances and exceptions to the rules.

But climb in a window and start making demands or shouting down anyone (including Nancy Pelosi), and you’ve lost me. Like Congress, I’m saying “no,” and saying no is a completely valid action. 



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 115th; aliens; daca; dreamers; illegals; invasion; obama; trump; trumpillegals
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1 posted on 09/24/2017 5:01:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
We shouldn't.

Next question?

2 posted on 09/24/2017 5:05:23 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Kaslin

On a scale of 1 -10 of caring, Dreamers rate about a -0.5.
Really, outside of a bunch of gutless, American-hating politicians, who gives a crap?
Nobody....deport, deport, deport.


3 posted on 09/24/2017 5:07:19 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Kaslin
Congress not passing a bill, rejecting a bill, is not “refusing to act.” It is Congress acting.

Hear, hear.

Oh...wait.

Escuchar, escuchar.

/sarcasm

4 posted on 09/24/2017 5:11:10 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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Lets see............ we elected A guy who ran on, the wall, tax cutes, repeal crap care, deport illegals, ISSUES the “American people” demand.........how did DACA and the rat compassionate issue move right to the front of the line and needs to get solved right away, ahead of the needs and demands of a sovereign people and its country?


6 posted on 09/24/2017 5:18:10 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: ronnie raygun

Good question and excellent point.


7 posted on 09/24/2017 5:20:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: Kaslin

If these “dreamers” are so great, they will make an awesome asset to their home country. They should want to take what they learned, return and be successful.


9 posted on 09/24/2017 5:21:17 AM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: Kaslin

We should not. Send them packing.


10 posted on 09/24/2017 5:26:07 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: Kaslin

Deport illegals!
Expel muslims!


11 posted on 09/24/2017 5:27:54 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Kaslin

Deport every single illegal alien especially VISA overstays and DACA criminals. Every damned one. NO exceptions. NO excuses.


12 posted on 09/24/2017 5:30:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: cyclotic

Well said


13 posted on 09/24/2017 5:33:25 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Kaslin
"I’m inclined to support the ability of some to stay on a case-by-case basis – for those who meet standards of education, accomplishment, not having broken any more laws, honorable military service, etc. – on the condition their parents never, ever are granted legal status. But activists – people here illegally – who demand the privilege to stay, to have a say in, if not control over, the political process of a country they’re in illegally? Those people need to go."

Sorry. THEY ALL NEED TO GO - ASAP.

14 posted on 09/24/2017 5:40:24 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog (I care about Americans, people who came here legally, our laws and the Constitution.)
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To: Kaslin

A better question would be ...Why don’t their country of origin care about them?


15 posted on 09/24/2017 5:41:25 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: Kaslin
"I know Democrats really want us to care about the so-called “DREAMers,” illegal aliens brought to the country as children by their illegal alien parents."

"Why should we care?"

Because Democrats want to give them citizenship and welfare benefits to add potentially millions (they'll bring their extended families!) of Democrat voters to the electorate and assure a permanent Democrat majority in the US Government.

That's just the start.

After that, Democrats will establish themselves as an all-powerful ruling oligarchy and the American Dream--and the United States of America--will crash and burn to be replaced by a recrudescence of Nazi Germany and the Roman Empire: The Democrat Dream.

(This is the dream of the U.S. News Media, academia, Hollywood, and the rest of America's corrupt ruling establishment.)

16 posted on 09/24/2017 5:48:56 AM PDT by Savage Beast (To the insane, the sane appear insane. MAGA = Renaissance!)
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To: Kaslin

“And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.” If Donald Trump uttered these words, liberals would be labeling him a variety of vile names.


17 posted on 09/24/2017 5:53:49 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("Silence is violence.")
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To: Kaslin

I only care that they shut up and leave, or just leave.


18 posted on 09/24/2017 5:59:42 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: Kaslin

NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! They ALL have to go!!! Illegal aliens, dreamers, anyone who not in line to become a Citizen of the United States of America, that will maintain a job, pay taxes, defend Our Country when needed, honor Our way of life and Our Country at all times...

You as an illegal alien cannot come into Our Country and drop your kid and expect Americans to support from cradle to grave you and your brats...go back to your own countries and stay there, you are NOT going to make America the hell hole you just left!!!


19 posted on 09/24/2017 6:02:08 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: Kaslin

THEY ARE LIARS

The Mexicanos that are behind this subversion are liars. That’s the problem.

They lie and they are joined by leftist media.

The leftist media wants to take America down, the America that stands in the way of their dominion. Images of liars marching on American streets waving flags of Mexico reveal their true colors. When their controllers sense this does not play well, they switch to American flags as if no one notices. Covering their subversion with yet another lie.

The tales of woe may in some cases be true but it doesn’t matter. The woeful tales are cover for the lies that are aimed at taking America down.

Americans don’t like being lied to, especially when the lies lead to stealing. Leftist media attempts to brand such Americans as ‘racists’. Piling on more lies.

So-called dreamers are either liars or are backed by liars. They lie about their age. The lie about when they came or were brought to the United States. They lie as to who their true family members are. They lie about their loyalty and allegiance to the United States. They will lie about anything to get what they want. They have no shame in this.

We can expect that people will lie to further their own interests if they sense there are no consequences for lying. The problem is an enormous third world finds that lying is rewarding and their numbers are overwhelming to the American way of life.

This is why the notion of ‘border’ and all that it entails must be strengthened. That is why there are laws of immigration that must be respected. The reason that these liars, or the liars that back them, are rejected is that they bring lawlessness, and lawlessness brings death and destruction.

Dreamers are to be examined case-by-case. Those that lie or are controlled by liars are to be deported. Those that demonstrate truthfulness, may be eligible to remain.


20 posted on 09/24/2017 6:04:01 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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