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CIA Agent Risks All To Expose Shadow Government
You Tube ^ | 23/8/17 | Dane Wigington

Posted on 09/04/2017 1:01:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHbrOg092GA


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: autism; cia; conspiracy; kevinshipp; shadowgovernment; vaccines
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To: cynwoody

What is a “Troofer” and why post if you don’t even bother to watch??


81 posted on 09/11/2017 2:31:00 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Reily

Quoting from the WashPost now are we?

Askes, Reilly, whose "High Standards" include cartoon characters....

Have you seen the South Park Scientology episode (they slice & dice Cruise in it also!)?

It tells you all you need to know about Scientology.

---Reilly

LOL

[About Jeff Stein SpyTalk columnist Jeff Stein is a longtime investigative reporter specializing in U.S. intelligence, defense and foreign policy issues. An Army Intelligence case officer in Vietnam, Stein has authored three highly regarded books and has been a frequent contributor to periodicals ranging from Esquire,Vanity Fair, GQ and Playboy to The New Republic, The Nation and The Christian Science Monitor. He also appears frequently on television and radio as an analyst on national security issues. In the 1980s, he was deputy foreign editor at UPI.]

https://web.archive.org/web/20100426191804/http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/03/about_jeff_stein.html

Yeah.

Tell us, in psycho-Reilly land - how exactly would Bob Woodward and the Wapo go about faking the security detail for William Casey?

82 posted on 09/11/2017 2:31:34 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: dforest

I think he did an excellent job of outlining some of the “questionable” influences on our “by the people” government” He connects many of the dots.

Not sure why the poster and some others have taken to trashing the thread...very odd IMHO!


83 posted on 09/11/2017 2:33:19 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Eleutheria5

Bookmark


84 posted on 09/11/2017 2:41:27 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you u have. Don't wait do it today.)
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To: Eleutheria5; All

So I don’t know why you posted this as you are doing nothing but trashing this...

I would say that though you are trying to discredit him and turn this thread into a debate on vaccines, the presentation is about a former CIA agent and his knowledge of the Deep State/Shadow Government/Industrial-Military Complex, etc...

People, don’t be dissuaded from watching the video...Though several here are trying to discredit the CIA agent and frame him as a kook, he seems credible to me.


85 posted on 09/11/2017 2:41:28 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Eleutheria5

This is an old thread. Have fun picking over it. Life has gone on in the interim.


Sorry, you posted it on Labor Day...Most people are enjoying Labor Day with family, friends, end to summer etc...

Old Thread? Hardly? ...Did not know there is a time limit on threads. Did you come up with that rule yourself?

Many of us actually have a life and so did not see it on Labor Day—did not see until now...life does go on in the interim, but then you are actually posting on it...

I watched this before Labor Day and agreed with much of what the guy said...

So what if he does not believe in mandatory vaccinations? Who agrees with everything...Again, why post something only to discredit it? What is your agenda?

Question is why would you take time on Lbor Day to post sometihing with which you so obvoisuly disagree??


86 posted on 09/11/2017 2:51:39 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Eleutheria5

When my youngest was ready to go to school, over thirty years ago, I took her for her check up. Her regular doctor was out, so his senior partner saw her. I had only just heard about possible problems with pertussin vaccinations, and I said to him, “I really don’t want her to have the pertussis vaccine”. He replied, “I NEVER give the pertussis vaccine. It causes too many problems”. He had been practicing for forty years at that point, and he knew his onions. When one of my granddaughters had her first or second vaccination, my daughter happened to be looking at her that evening, when her eyes started darting back and forth rapidly. My daughter took her to the doctor, who said it was seizure activity, most likely brought on by the vaccination, and she wasn’t to have anymore. I think he was referring to the pertussis vaccine, IIRC. A decade ago, skipping a vaccination wasn’t too big a risk. But since our country has been flooded with medically unvetted immigrants, from countries who have NOT eradicated childhood diseases, they’re being seen here, now, for the first time in many decades. Vaccination proponents used to warn the public, “if you’d ever seen a case of whooping cough or diphtheria, you would NEVER think of not vaccinating your child”! At that time, it was highly unlikely we WOULD ever see one here. Not anymore. Thanks Ted! Thanks Obama! Just another part of the legacy those evil men left us.


87 posted on 09/11/2017 3:28:12 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: Freedom56v2

Here’s the rule I came up with myself. The discussion ended. I posted extensively, then moved on. You come by later, and without reading anything past post number one, demand that I post a link to all the posts where I answered the very questions you are posing. Then you demand that I put time stamps referencing where on the video in question I am critiquing. You showed up late to the party, and you want ME to do your homework for you? Either read my old posts, or don’t. I don’t care. But I do not have to jump through hoops for you or anyone else who just tunes in. Whatever I said is there to read or not to read.

Since you obviously are just catching up, after spending hours throwing gratuitous insults my way, that ends any amicable discussion that a normal person would be entitled to, Bucky. ‘cause you’re a rude pig, and aside from that incredibly obtuse. For example,

“Most people are enjoying Labor Day with family, friends, end to summer etc...”

Labor Day is not a holiday in Israel, nor in Russia, China, India, France, etc. Since I live in Israel, it is just another day of the week to me.

For example, you think that Bibi is the President of Israel. Hello? We have a parliamentary system here. The President is a largely ceremonial post, and the present holder of it is not Bibi.

Furthermore, “facing indictment” does not automatically make someone indicted, anymore than it makes them automatically guilty. Is Yvette guilty of something? Who knows. The same fake media spreads the same fake news here as does it in America, the same class of miseducated leftists who can string a malicious sentence together, in other words. I could care less about Yvette, but as a fair person, I presume her innocent until proven guilty.

And so on and so forth. As you’re so fond of repeating, STFU, and furthermore, GFYS, and finally, just go away.


88 posted on 09/11/2017 3:41:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

I remember when my first born was about a year old, he got one of the usual regimen of vaccinations, and then started running a high fever and crying every time someone so much as touched him. The doctor who administered the vaccination thought he had come down with meningitis. He didn’t. It was a temporary reaction to the vaccine, and he recovered and is now a father of some five children, including his second wife’s two children from a previous marriage, whom he treats as his own.

Ironically, the Amish, at least a decade or so ago when I read the article, were suffering from outbreaks of whooping cough. The elders were considering whether to permit at least that vaccine, since whooping cough is a deadly killer that preys on the young. I don’t know what they finally decided to do.

I’d bet that TB is making a comeback in Europe, along with new strains of hygiene-related diseases, such as typhus and cholera. I only hope that Trump can build that wall fast enough.


89 posted on 09/11/2017 3:50:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: 100American

Just one comment; MANY ulcers and associated gastric issues are caused by H. pylori bacteria, but not all. My Ex was tested for it, and it was found NOT to be the cause of his excess acid. But I agree with you about the danger of proton pump inhibitors. When first brought out, the package insert warned they were not to be taken longer than 6 weeks, but that was ignored by many practitioners. They’ve never worked for me. Good old pepcid works great, with a LOT less possible problems. A side note -— I knew a woman who had interstitial cystitis. Her doctor was an brilliant internist, whom I had recommended to her, after seeing how he attended his patients. HAt her first visit, he conducted a thorough exam, and asked if she had any problems or unusual symptoms. She told him she had none, except that the top of her head itched, all the time. Right away, he declared, “I think you have interstitial cystitis. I’m going to prescribe prilosec, but you cannot take it for more than six weeks, but that should be enough”. Sure enough, she followed his directions, and it never bothered her again. She told me, “when I started taking the prilosec, I felt better than I had in years! I hated to stop it at the end of the six weeks!” But she was obedient, and her doctor was right. It can be successfully used off label, for that disorder.


90 posted on 09/11/2017 3:51:42 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: Eleutheria5

Most babies DO get a fever and fussiness, after vaccinations. It’s the body’s response to the virus. But the neurological problems people are concerned with, are a different reaction. As far as the Amish are concerned, I read that the reason there are only a handful of surnames among them, is because they don’t marry outsiders. If they are more susceptible to certain diseases, it may be because of inbreeding.
I don’t know about all vaccines, but it is documented that LAV (live, attenuated vaccine) for polio, has caused it to occur. WHO information reports the following possible adverse effects:
“Safety and stability
Since LAVs contain living organisms, there is a degree of unpredictability raising some safety and stability concerns.

Attenuated pathogens have the very rare potential to revert to a pathogenic form and cause disease in vaccinees or their contacts. Examples for this are the very rare, serious adverse events of:
vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP) and
disease-causing vaccine-derived poliovirus (VDPV) associated with oral polio vaccine (OPV).”
Info source:
http://vaccine-safety-training.org/live-attenuated-vaccines.html


91 posted on 09/11/2017 4:10:57 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: Eleutheria5; All

Wow...right out of the box you are WRONG...Sloppy research skills which again calls your entire premise into question except to ask...WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA?

1. Sorry pal, you don’t get to make the rules unless you own the website...Did JR sell it to you?

2. I actually did read the entire thread...Also, I watched the whole video... Don’t assume when you don’t know...

3. I saw no link posted by you other than the ORIGINAL video which you attempted to discredit...Oh BTW, I watched video in its entirety, which I found educational. NO answer to my questions listed, pal.

4. I never said anything about you posting a time stamp>>.You are confused...Seriously?!?! What are you talking about?

5. LOL I did not spend hours throwing insults your way...I don’t understand your reason for posting and then attacking to discredit and besides, as a former English and typing teacher, I read/type fast so I did not spend hours.

6. Sorry, here is USA, where FR is located and majority of posters reside, Labor Day is a major holiday...and if you are not here you should still be aware that many of us were on vacation and did not see your thread. I have never seen anyone not want interest and debate on their thread before...Odd. Perhaps you should be pleased it is drawing so much interest.

7. Bibi? President? Huh? I never mentioned Bibi...Are you on meds??? Yvette? Indictment? I never posted anything about Bibi or his wife? Why are you changing the subject???

8. I never said STFU...Again, what are you talking about? you area really confused, as is your entire thread!

Showed up late to party and want YOU to do MY HOMEWORK FOR ME? Sorry, I did my homework and found your posting of a thread you would attack really odd~as did others.

Since you said “GFYS” - YOU are a coward—you use profanity under the wire... and I have never been told that by anyone in person or online, you are spam and I won’t respond to your profane posts.

TO EVERYONE ELSE, PLEASE GO WATCH THE VIDEO, THE EX-CIA AGENT PROVIDES A LOT OF INTERESTING INFORMATION.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5NW9KcMt0

To everyone esle, please watch the video, the ex-CIA agent prenets a lot of good information.ion


92 posted on 09/11/2017 4:26:52 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

My exchange was not directed at you. If you read the entire thread, you will know that I was being flamed by one GLPHat, or whatever. Talk about sloppy research skills, just look down at the bottom of the post, and it says which post it’s responding to.

Second, said individual was demanding that I make the thread more readable for him, by posting links to all my posts on it, and timestamping the video. I don’t make the rules, I don’t own the web site, and neither did this bozo, who

As for my agenda, I looked at the tape of the alleged ex-cia agent, and he said a lot of valid things regarding the power structure in Washington, but not truly informative inside information, imho. Then on a different video for which I provided the link, he sounded like an Art Belle caller, and it called into question his bona fides, imho. I’ve listened to Ed Snowden, and this guy is not him. He knows some stuff, but something’s not right. My agenda? To discuss the video, and discuss the video pro and con, and then finish discussing the damn video.

“3. I saw no link posted...”No. 1, get your eyes checked, then. No. 2, my exchange was with GLPhat,not you. Enough said. Confusion says, man who mixes in to others’ conversations is confused.


93 posted on 09/11/2017 5:38:59 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Maybe that’s why they add mercury, to disable the viruses sufficiently so that the antibodies have an easy time pounding them and thereby “learning” to counter them. True, mercury is generally a bad thing, but if you like tuna fish you are regularly ingesting mercury, and there should be studies of the incidents of autism among children who eat a lot of tuna.

Autism, for that matter, is not like mental retardation. Autistic children are above average intelligence, but they are so wrapped up in their own world, that their intelligence is not available for practical use. My nephew is mildly autistic. He also has a phenomenal memory.


94 posted on 09/11/2017 5:49:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Ooops. Somehow my response to GLPhat was accidentally sent towards you instead. I must have clacked when I should have clicked. My apologies.


95 posted on 09/11/2017 5:52:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

What are you talking about???

You replied to my post #86...perhaps by mistake, but it was mine and you addressed my comments as well as the other poster’s...

If you are not replying to me then DON’T REPLY TO ME or my comments!!!

My eyesight is fine...I get checked regularly, and I barely need readers...

Research? Having done grad level studies, my research skills are just fine.

Is English your first language? That is rhetorical question...

Oh and you don’t get to tell me to go away...but I am done!!!


96 posted on 09/11/2017 6:05:33 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Freedom56v2

Last word on the subject. See #2 on this thread. End of story. Opthalmologists are standing by.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl5NW9KcMt0


97 posted on 09/12/2017 3:14:19 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: 9YearLurker

They did not go down instantly. I saw them both burning across Jamaica Bay, still standing. They didn’t fall down until I reached Kingston-Throope on the A Train, which had gone local because of the fire. At that point, they let everyone off and shut down the trains, but that was much later. In other words, despite the burning towers, I was still going into work in the downtown area, confident that the fires would be put out, as they had survived the previous attempt in ‘92. There was no instantaneous collapse.


98 posted on 09/12/2017 3:35:37 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Reports suggest it took a second wave of explosions to take the second tower down. But look again at the videos if you haven’t for a while.


99 posted on 09/12/2017 3:57:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

A second explosion could just as well be a fuel reserve. These were long distance flights.

This is why I have little patience for conspiracy theories. The conclusions, when drawn in advance, skew factual interpretation, which should tend towards the simplest explanation, not the one that fits the pre-drawn conclusion. I know what I saw, and it was real life, not a video.

Getting back to Shippy, he struck me as a seasoned public speaker, his audience as the sort you meet at real estate “seminars,” and he was very comfortable in that surrounding.

CIA agents are people more comfortable in the shadows, doing clandestine, sometimes illegal and bloody things out of the public eye. Shippy says quite a lot of valid things, but he says them too glibly and affably. Not conclusive proof of anything, but it bothers me.

Snowden was brilliant one-on-one speaking from Moscow, with a well-worked out ideology that he articulated and defended, and I’m sure he would not get out on a stage and talk about multiple conspiracy theories that aren’t his provence, much less in the tone of an infomercial pitch man. He’s a quiet but highly intelligent man, and Shippy seems the opposite.


100 posted on 09/12/2017 4:38:59 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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