Battle over Robert E. Lee statue enters Charlottesville courtroom Friday

The Washington Post ^ | September 1, 2017 | Paul Duggan

[yoe]

CHARLOTTESVILLE — A judge is scheduled to hear arguments Friday on whether to dismiss a five-month-old lawsuit that has prevented this city from removing public memorials to two Confederate generals, including a statue of Robert E. Lee that was the focal point of violent clashes last month involving hundreds of white supremacist demonstrators and counterprotesters.

The Lee statue, in a city park, and a nearby statue of Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, also on public land, have become the latest epicenter in a national debate over the propriety of civic monuments honoring the Confederacy and how the history of the slaveholding Old South should be interpreted.

[yoe]

Our utterly dumbed-down citizenry is truly frightening....the money taxpayers have paid into public education is probably incalculable...sadly teachers and politicians have corrupted learning in America. Abit of history:

[rktman]

Uh, how come nobody noticed these statues when the lyin’ king was in the cat bird seat? I mean in 8 years they could have all been destroyed.

[madprof98]

Now we are made to believe they cause untold pain and suffering whenever a person of color glances up at them. Unbelievable. But in a society where most people believe boys can become girls and vice-versa, not a bit surprising.

[HokieMom]

Hoping for a judge not appointed by BHO.

[onedoug]

Remove Confederate history and remove the primary impetus of the civil rights movement.

No history, no history.

[IC Ken]

BINGO. The picture shows why the Democrats want these all gone. They need to erase the history and PROOF of their racist past while maintaining present day plantations.

[samtheman]

great graphic

[Vlad The Inhaler]

New evidence suggests (proves) Charlottesville was a complete SET-UP

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3579435/posts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFNOfG7Zbzc&feature=youtu.be

https://www.allenbwest.com/2017/08/19/bombshell-new-evidence-suggests-charlottesville-complete-set/

[Vlad The Inhaler]

[vetvetdoug]

I have to disagree knowing an exception. My GGGF was living in West Tennessee and owned slaves. At the outbreak of the war he and his neighbors joined the Union Army as cavalry. They were staunch unionists and slavery wasn't the issue. They released their slaves around late 1862. I am quite perturbed at the ignorance and climate concerning the Civil War. Today my Confederate Veteran magazine came in the mail covered in an inconspicuous white wrapper with no markings. The Confederate Veteran, the magazine for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, has to protect itself from the biased snowflake prejudiced affirmative action hired government workers at the Post Office.

[JLAGRAYFOX]

The proof in the pudding is that radical America hater, Black Racist, Congresswoman, Sheila “Stonewall” Jackson “Robert E.” Lee is blessed with the names of two major Confederacy Generals. Ain’t that a shame? Will this America hater, now change her name? LMAO!!!

[Lurkinanloomin]

The Confederate statues are just the beginning.
The want to erase all of American history to erase America as a nation.

Import foreigners + erase the history = “new” America, with “new” Americans

Fundamental Transformation

[shanover]

Our utterly dumbed-down citizenry is truly frightening

I believe this is the number one problem with America. The root causes are quite obvious: Education,Government,Media. These entities are mostly controlled by the left. For many it's cradle to grave;permanent state obedience and slavery;brain washing and social engineering.

[Ohioan]

1. I seriously doubt your statement. There were certainly Whigs who owned slaves. With the collapse of the Whig party, many Whigs became Republicans. Is there any basis for assuming that none of said Republican ex-whigs was a slaveholder?

What is the basis for your statement? 2. The Left, such as the New York Mayor, has been doing their damndest to make slavery appear a contemporary issue--although no one is advocating its restoration--at least not in the contemporary States of the Union. Why cooperate in that effort at resurrecting a non-issue, which is being used by the Left to stir racial animosity?

[Pelham]

“in 1860 no Republican owned a slave”

So what was US Grant, a Democrat? His wife had inherited slaves and they weren’t freed until the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863

The Republican Party platform opposed the extension of slavery beyond the states in which it already existed. That wasn’t abolition, a position held by the Radical Republican wing of the party.

These arguments over Democrats and Republicans of 1860 are ridiculous and have little relevance to today. It would be just as easy to point out that the Whig/ Republican Party was a big spending, big government party. Moreover some of the organizers of the Republican Party were German ‘48er Radicals, communists, and associates of Karl Marx. The GOP gave us the first income tax. And the Democrats of that day opposed large centralized government and the internal improvements, high tariff-high tax schemes of the Whigs/GOP.

These were parties of their time and place. People should knock off the half-educated attempts to exploit a past that they barely know and toss around in cartoon fashion.

[Ohioan]

Amen!

[FirstFlaBn]

Good points. The historical illiterates here have never heard of the Constitutional Union Party (for those from Rio Linda, it was the reconstituted Whig Party that sprung up for the 1860 election).

I rechecked the numbers the other day. This party won TN and VA in 1860 and got at least 30% of the popular vote in every soon-to-be Confederate state except TX (SC EVs were awarded by the state legislature; no popular votes were cast).

Suppose our “experts” hereabouts can establish a high likelihood that none of those votes came from slave owners?

I’m sure these illiterates are also blissfully unaware that days before the firing on Ft. Sumter, the VA secession convention voted 2:1 against secession, but a few days later in response to Lincoln’s call for 75k troops, they revoted 3:2 in favor of secession.

[blueplum]

The city reached a deal to keep the statue whereby $4million was paid to the minority community in the form of $50K a year or $100K a year (depending on which audience Wes Bellamy wants to brag to) to ‘attend community college’, along with a black-heritage community center and several manufactured racially-focused jobs with the city. After the deal was struck, the NAACP/BLM-associated Bellamy then rallied his freshly paid-off mob to demand the statue be taken down anyway, in spite of the recommendation of a “blue ribbon” panel commissioned by the city council that the statues stay. A lawsuit was filed by The Sons of the Confederacy and the descendants of the original owner of the land donated to the city; Bellamy referred to them as ‘toothless white people.’

Since an agreement for the statue was made, and payment was accepted, the statue should stay.

[wardaddy]

Hear hear