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True of false: Hurricane Harvey was more intense because of global warming
American Thinker ^ | 08/31/2017 | Rick Moran

Posted on 08/31/2017 10:28:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Two similar hurricanes hit Indianola TX wiping it out entirely after the second one that hit in 1886. The second one was so bad that it ripped two light houses off their foundations and they kept finding bodies on the beaches many weeks after the event. In fact they have no idea how many people really died.

The Indianola Hurricane was the fifth most intense hurricane to ever hit the United States, right behind Andrew.

This was over a hundred years ago, way before “Climate Change.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_Indianola_hurricane


21 posted on 08/31/2017 10:56:53 AM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: rjsimmon

It’s all a matter of balancing costs and benefits. The civil engineering standard for handling stormwater is the 100 year event. This was a 500 year event. It exceeded accepted design standards and practices.


22 posted on 08/31/2017 10:58:28 AM PDT by henkster (We are living in an Orwellian era.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hurricane Harvey was not really such a big deal as hurricanes go.

The problem with rain was not the hurricane but two large high pressure center to the north that prevented normal movement.

Harvey stalled out dumping the enormous amount of rain in a rather small area in a protracted time on flat earth very near sea level.


23 posted on 08/31/2017 11:00:58 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: blueunicorn6
Americans are always going to live in beautiful but tempestuous places - it seems to be in our pioneering dna. Just look at the Little Prairie novels in which Pa picks the nicest land and then endures hell to keep it. It is something no modern European can understand.
24 posted on 08/31/2017 11:04:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SeekAndFind
As a storm, hurricane Harvey was nothing special in size or strength. Hurricane Harvey's damage was based on it's lack of movement from the south Texas area once it made landfall. This resulted in all the rainfall occurring essentially in the same place instead of being spread out over a longer storm track which is more typical of our hurricane patterns.

This is not indicative of a "superstorm" or anything other than lack of jet stream steering winds. Historically in the summer months in the US, the polar jet stream remains far north and is not as much of an influence in storm movement as later in the fall and winter.

25 posted on 08/31/2017 11:09:13 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: SeekAndFind
and the 7 previously name storms this season, were less intense because of global warming , man made global warming, climate change,man-made climate change.
26 posted on 08/31/2017 11:11:11 AM PDT by stylin19a (Chris Rock was right.)
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To: Leaning Right

>>True. Everything that is bad has become worse because of global warming. That’s what I hear on TV, anyway.<<

globull warming is inverse Bluetooth.


27 posted on 08/31/2017 11:11:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hurricane Harvey was on the order of Superstorm Sandy, and for the same reasons.

Five hundred years ago, there would have been virtually no lasting impact of an identical storm coming together in either location (Texas coast or Jersey Shore), and the ecology would have recovered almost immediately.

But in the 21st Century, there is the additional factors of millions of people and a vast amount of appurtenances on the real estate. The underlying land itself is virtually unaffected, but the property damage and threat to life is horrendous.

Much of the land in the Netherlands has been carved out of the floor of the sea, and dams erected with pumps running continuously keep the sea at bay. Until they don’t, by failure of the dams, or by a huge storm surge that comes over the dams, or by an unusually large river flow from the interior of the European continent.


28 posted on 08/31/2017 11:12:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: SeekAndFind
According the weather reports I saw just before the storm made landfall, there would be record amounts of rain dumped by this storm because of two other systems, north and south of the hurricane itself. .

There were two separate pressure systems outside of the hurricane itself, one coming south from the Plains states and one from the south heading north below the hurricane, combining to hold the hurricane storm itself in a stall over coastal and central Texas for several days. That's why so much water was dropped. The storm didn't blow through after it made landfall. It stayed in one spot and just drenched the southern part of the state in flooding and disaster.

So I say no to the global warming reason. That's a political scheme by the Left anyway. Has nothing to do with the environment, the weather or the planet. So I am calling it red herring because it is.

This was more of a perfect storm because of the other systems stalling it in place, than anything attributable to climate change or what ever they're calling it nowadays.

29 posted on 08/31/2017 11:18:38 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: alloysteel

All that water certainly matters if one is settling the area. It’s bad news.


30 posted on 08/31/2017 11:19:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HotHunt

And Harvey did the hokey pokey and he turned himself around, and that’s what it’s all about!


31 posted on 08/31/2017 11:21:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: the_Watchman

Actually, this was nature’s punishment to Red State for Trump’s withdrawing from the Paris Climate accords/s


32 posted on 08/31/2017 11:23:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

False.


33 posted on 08/31/2017 11:25:17 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: miss marmelstein

Miss M, you are one of the nicest people on Free Republic, but we all know you live in the Big Apple.

New York City is famous for a recurring natural disaster.....boll weevils.

Every Summer, like tourists drawn to the marquees on Broadway, the boll weevils return to New York City.

On any block in Manhattan in August, you will find three or four boll weevils smoking salmon and playing Parcheesi.

I, on the other hand, have lived in a little house on the prairie.

It ain’t no dinner at Sardis, let me tell you.

We had gruel to eat...the grueling kind of gruel.

And sometimes we didn’t even have that!

Sometimes, all we had to eat was dirt. The dirty kind of dirt!

Dad advertised the shack as a fixer upper and sold it to some guy from Oxnard and we all moved to Siberia to live with the boll weevils and play Parcheesi.


34 posted on 08/31/2017 11:25:40 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: miss marmelstein

Americans are generally descended from people who had the fortitude to cross the North Atlantic ocean in small wooden boats; Europeans are descended from those who had no such fortitude.


35 posted on 08/31/2017 11:27:14 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Take two aspirins and call me in the morning!


36 posted on 08/31/2017 11:30:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: SeekAndFind
Harvey's winds weren't more intense. The storm surge was typical.

The large amount of rain was because the hurricane stalled out and did a loop.

The globe hasn't warmed in 20 years, and "global warming" had nothing to do with it.

37 posted on 08/31/2017 11:31:12 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: miss marmelstein

The American continent is uniquely suited to tempests due to its mountain ranges and sinuous coasts.

The people aren’t always as suited to planning for them. Why do we have so many trailer parks in Tornado Alley? It’s a redneck thing, don’t even ask. But at least the rednecks help each other put up new trailers afterwards.


38 posted on 08/31/2017 11:33:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Muttley speaks for me:


39 posted on 08/31/2017 11:34:03 AM PDT by ssaftler ("Keep your hands to yourself, leave other people's things alone, and be kind to one another.")
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To: DuncanWaring

There was also the emphatic faith factor. They believed God wanted them here.


40 posted on 08/31/2017 11:34:59 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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