Posted on 08/22/2017 4:27:36 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
Edited on 08/22/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Their family owned the grazing rights before any “public land” was established. Should the law just give a thumbs up to negating prior contracts just because the government decides to grab some land and call it Federal property?
What was done is no different than BLM protesting without a permit (which I too find to be unconstitutional) and then being arrested and fined for it. Don’t like the laws? They should be changed by through legislation. Just because it is our side does not make breaking the law a glamorous act.
It’s akin to killing your parent then crying to the public because you are now an orphan under prosecution
Yea! Now pursue those Fed prosecutors for their outrageous behavior, including Establishment Jeff for his praise of those prosecutors.
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Jury nullification. Love it. Let every misguided prosecutor take note: America is a free country, and the government is here to serve us.
I was hoping the blatant railroading would piss off the jurors and cause the nullification the judge was so concerned with preventing.
Although I have wondered if the judge went full libtard intentionally to cause the nullification while covering herself from leftist criticism, sort of killing two birds with one stone. Crazy like a fox.
I am guessing that people in the west are getting leery letting a SJW government persecute their neighbors.
Listen up judges, prosecutors, and attorney generals, when you disrespect and abuse the law regular American on juries are going to be very skeptical of your ethics, your honesty, the LEO/government bureaucrat testimonies and the merits of the law behind the charges. Americans are now very well aware of the ancient right of jury nullification enshrined in English Common Law and are starting to use it.
The choice between ballots or bullets is fast approaching.
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And that brings it full circle and btw, sustainable development is hugely behind the climate change fear used to encourage people to embrace communism.
It's all very nicely intertwined.
NOW THIS IS A WIN
At one point the government confiscated 400 of Clive Bundy’s cows. They eventually gave most back, though I seem to recall that they killed a couple of them first.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy-the-citizens-of-america-got-my-cattle-back/
Um Harry Reid?
OK, snarkiness noted.
But should that be the response to every fee that is raised too high by the government? This kind of thing goes on in other areas all the time. Should fee hikes just result in armed standoffs from now on?
I'm not defending Obama's government or their power grabbing, but I'm just asking if that's really how we should be responding to it, because we will get a Democrat president again, eventually.
Are we going to be the party of, "I don't like your fees and taxes, so I'm getting my gun!?"
Should I barricade the door and threaten to shoot the IRS agent who was sent to audit me because tax rates are insanely high?
When I hate the obscene hikes in my property tax, should I draw down on the deputies who come to evict me for failing to pay them?
I'm just saying that this was, I believe, an inappropriate response to the problem.
Cliven.
Auto-correct struck again.
Good! Now sue the living hell out of the judge! And the jack booted thugs that provoked the whole situation.
Friggin bastrds!
I think you should reconsider. This particular trial was not about whether or not Bundy had the proper permits—he did not. However, the bind he was in was the government refusing to issue them as they had before, due to environmentalism.
But, still, I admit even that is open to much debate.
Still, the trial was about the following:
Do the citizens of this country have the right to protest against the government, and even be armed while doing so? Federal agents ordered them to stand down and leave and they would not. Many protesters were arrested because they were protesting on federal lands, and the government thought they should have been confined to a caged “protest area”, while they themselves had free range to follow their orders.
In this trial the government tried to make the case that the people have no such right, and what they did was threaten and aggrieve the federal agents, who were just doing their jobs.
The results seem to be in favor of the citizens. This time.
However, there is still the larger issue of Bundy, his operations, and whether or not a desert tortoise is more important than an American family. I say no.
Environmentalists, democrats and pretty much the entire Left says yes.
In the end, we still have a Left/Right struggle underlying it all.
Praise God!!!!!
We were considering going but the interstate was backed up for many miles.
I think OP means the Feds who stole the cattle.
AG Sessions will be “disappointed!”
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