Susan Bro said she refuses to speak to Mr Trump after hearing him equate demonstrators & Antifa
Posted on 08/18/2017 7:39:21 AM PDT by rktman
No sh*t.
If you’re looking for your soros connection, start there. Their support for the commies before the event tells all.
Th ACLU is just trying to keep the traveling circus going, by appearing to help the cause of Unite the Right.
This allows this same false flag operation to happen in more cities as time goes on.
The dead giveaway that UTR is really a leftist organization, apart from its leader being a proven Lefty operative, is that the ACLU went into Federal court on behalf of a supposed right wing group.
Like that ever happens.
Exactly. That is what has been the routine strategy until......the Clinton-Soros era.
I want to see the DOJ get an GJ indictment charge of DWS for each riot that happens. Just keep piling them up on the Nervous Noodle until Hillary calls Soros.
I think the ACLU is using logic as they analyze the evidence, and have found what most Freepers have found in all of this. Truth.
The ACLU is telling the truth as did Cheryl Stolberg of the NYT.
Antifa came for violence, and feel they have the right to throw bricks at those they differ with politically. Media agrees
Are you suggesting that basic protection is too much to ask of the police/city/State?
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Yeah, I am. Sorta.
Not trying to equivocate, but I just wonder, where does it end. How much does the state have to spend? What is a reasonable expectation? If I can organize a 10 million participant assembling of people, does the state have to bring in 2 million police? Who is paying for that?
“The ACLU is just following orders like a good dog.”
When it comes to the First Amendment, the ACLU is honest and apolitical.
“The ACLU was aligned with the Nazis.”
When it comes to freedom of speech, the ACLU is consistent: they never cave for political reasons. Everyone has a right to apply for permits to march in public places, and if permit are denied on the basis of content, the ACLU will defend that group, no matter how noxious the group is. Don’t be surprised if the reason the truth about the events in Charlottesville eventually comes out on account of the ACLU.
Mayor Signer (Singer) is also culpable.
Why not blame the police? They were there. They have eyes, and brains and could see what was going on. Letting off the hook means that they are nothing but mindless automotons
I blame the mayor and the governor and most likely others in the dimoKKKRAT party.
Plenty of blame there as well, but the police have their own culpability as well.
Like I said, in many cities that cost will be paid by the protesters. In other cities, I don’t know.
But, I figure if you are going to get together 10 million people, you will be organizing for port-a-johns, food vendors, and other services, and I figure that you would be smart enough to organize some sort of protection for your 10 million people, otherwise YOU could be held liable in our litigious society for NOT providing some sort of protection, in the event things went south. But I digress.
In this particular case, the police could have simply created a demarcation line between the protesters and counter-protesters with a few dozen cops and some barricades, arresting those who crossed the barrier in an attempt to provoke a fight. It wouldn’t have taken an army, with the right planning and proper forethought. As a matter of fact, in this particular case, the counter-protesters got a permit, at the last minute, to protest in two OTHER parks (one of which was where the original protest was to occur - then the city forced the original protesters to CHANGE THEIR location - at the last minute (creating a good chance for altercations due to ignorance of the location change)). The THREE parks are two to three blocks apart. It would have been VERY easy, and not very costly, to create a separation line.
The low life vermin Mayor of Charlottesville with his big mouth is now hiding in the corner, cancelling his presser, as his & McAuliffe chickens come home to roost. Cuff ‘em & jail ‘em the guilty purveyors of the Charlottesville Massacre.
Susan Bro said she refuses to speak to Mr Trump after hearing him equate demonstrators & Antifa
How do we protect our right to assemble and free speech if we don’t want to provide law enforcement?
If you don’t think there is an obligation to defend the right of assembly and free speech there are still issues with not providing law enforcement.
The problem as I see it is when police witness crimes in their presence and do nothing. That has been happening all over the country with only a couple of exceptions. Nearly all of the previous incidents did not involve removing Confederate statues at all. Streets and highways are blocked, nothing is done. Protestors assault people, nothing is done. Protestors damage property, nothing is done. Protestors commit arson, nothing is done. This has been the response all over the country to violent protestors, only in a couple of places did LE crack down on the criminal aspect of it right at the start, and those gatherings remained peaceful.
When the police do nothing while crimes are happening in front of them, nothing to protect people being assaulted- it causes more violence. In some cases LE has gone after the thugs after the incident but that isn’t even always known about one way or the other. The visual is that nothing is being done. This causes violent protestors to become bolder, more violent. It also causes those that fear they might be victims to decide they must defend themselves, cannot expect LE to do so- at that point you have people riled up on both sides. Escalation of violence in public as a result of LE not doing anything.
I don’t have a concrete answer as to how much police protection is needed, but if LE isn’t going to do anything if they are there- that is not even the issue. If we decide as taxpayers that we don’t want to pay for police to be at protests- how do we support free speech? The left wants to make conservatives sit down and shut up. If the police are not there- the left is emboldened to force people to sit down and shut up- go home or pay the price.
What about the safety of people who are not involved in the rally or protest? People live, work, travel through those areas and they are also in danger. Should they barricade themselves in their homes when there is a rally or protest? What if the violent groups begin to act when there is no event, just to intimidate people. What if they set up at polling places in areas that generally go Republican? Is that something we should expect law enforcement to act on? If it happens, will they act?
If we don’t expect LE to uphold and defend the Constitution do we need LE? At this point we don’t know what they are willing or not willing to do after seeing them stand down time after time with violence/criminal acts in their presence.
It’s definitely flying pigs day!
I could swear the purpose of the police is to support the Constitution.
Oath of Office
I (state your name), do solemnly swear (or affirm), that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution and laws of the State of ______, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and defend them against enemies, foreign and domestic, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge, the duties of a peace officer, to the best of my ability, so help me God.
Why is wrong to charge a fee, but acceptable to require a permit?
No... when you peaceably assemble and when you have a permit to peaceably assemble in a particular area
then other people do not have a right to block or attack you from entering that area and police’s responsibility to protrct you frome being attacked and allow in the area you have our permission to assemble in
I have gone to several protests I don’t recall ever going out attacking protesters on the other side in fact when I went to several Freeper protest and we were counted protested we actually protected the counter-protesters right to speak
Are you suggesting that anyone should be able to organize a crowd of any size to assemble anywhere they want — and compel the local taxpayers to pay whatever it costs to protect them?
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