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ACLU blames McAuliffe, police for Charlottesville
wnd.com ^ | 8/17/2017 | Liam Clancy

Posted on 08/18/2017 7:39:21 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

The blame begins and ends with McAuliffe within Virginia. Outside influences (DEMs, Soros) are also there. The police did not react as they did by their own direction. The ACLU is just using this opportunity to take a shot at police in general.


21 posted on 08/18/2017 7:52:48 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: yoe

McAuliffe is a Democrat thug and should be cuffed and sent off to jail for what he did in Charlottesville with his two cronies the Mayor the Racist Assistant Mayor, Methinks the evil, hateful hands of Obama, Clinton & Soros are in this gig up to their necks & eyeballs!!! Stay tuned, the truth is about to opt out. Sessions & Wray...what happened in the helicopter accident....not a word has been said, one way or another. I smell a rat(DemoRAT).


22 posted on 08/18/2017 7:54:18 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: rktman

McAuliffe is a socialist-democrat first, and being governor is just his daytime gig.

That rat bastard actually tried to start a riot between these two groups in Charlottesville. All of the actions of the police, city, courts, and state point right to that conclusion.


23 posted on 08/18/2017 7:54:37 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: rktman

Claire better watch her six.

BLM, Antifa and the Democrats, the Fascist Left for short, will gunning for her for speaking the truth.

Truth tellers are verboten by the Fascist Left.


24 posted on 08/18/2017 7:56:00 AM PDT by joshua c (To disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives)
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To: z3n

I have seen and heard witnesses state that the 2 groups were actually ‘herded’ together by police personnel.


25 posted on 08/18/2017 7:57:11 AM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: rktman

The ACLU was aligned with the Nazis.


26 posted on 08/18/2017 7:57:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: lee martell

One does not speak against the Bolsheviks. To do so is a death sentence. Among statists today the enforcers of the revolution are sacrosanct. When bolsheviks attack brownshirts the devil is at war with himself. President Trump is correct, as usual. These two batallions of evil and stupidity deserve each other. They are cast in the same mold.


27 posted on 08/18/2017 7:57:54 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: rktman

Note to ruling class: it’s very difficult to undo an entire country. You can infiltrate politics and propagandize police departments, but there are some very essential parts of your agenda that you will never be able to accomplish.


28 posted on 08/18/2017 8:03:33 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: z3n

The police are responsible for maintaining law and order. The protesters are responsible for maintaining peaceful actions on their own part.

Any protester, on any side, who instigated violence should be arrested and charged.

The police, and their elected masters, should be arrested and charged if their actions (as is evident in this case, IMO) caused two opposing sides to come into conflict due to proximity - especially when the police supposedly had a plan to ensure no such violence would ensue, but decided to follow a plan to put the two groups in close contact with no supervising presence.

The fact of the matter appears to be that the police had 4 directions in which they could disperse the protesters in the park. 3 went through police-controlled areas. The 4th went straight into the Antifa mob. The police decided to funnel the permitted protesters into the Antifa mob.


29 posted on 08/18/2017 8:03:54 AM PDT by MortMan (Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded! [Y. Berra])
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To: z3n
That's a good point, and I've thought of that too. If there was a process already in place to get a permit for the demonstration, then maybe there should be a fee that covers the cost of extra law enforcement protection?

New York City is a leftist dump, but you rarely see riots there because they have a police force in excess of 30,000 that is larger than the military forces of most countries.

30 posted on 08/18/2017 8:05:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Red Badger

Flying in formation.


31 posted on 08/18/2017 8:07:48 AM PDT by meatloaf
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32 posted on 08/18/2017 8:09:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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33 posted on 08/18/2017 8:13:33 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MortMan

After all the grief the police have caught during the past 8 years when they legitimately try to keep the peace and they or some rioter or criminal who won’t stand down gets hurt or killed, they probably wish all troublemakers and rabble rousers of any stripe would kill each other and save them having to deal with them. If a violent and hate-spewing neo-Nazi and a violent and hate-spewing Antifa agitator kill each other, the police likely don’t give a rip.


34 posted on 08/18/2017 8:14:07 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: z3n

I would think that MOST police departments have a common mantra of “To protect and to serve”. Apparently in Charlottesville, Virginia, their mantra is “To protect and to serve, unless people are assembling to exercise their first amendment rights”.

Many cities, I’m not sure of Charlottesville, but many cities require that the group requesting the permit must pay for any additional protection deemed necessary to control/protect the protesters/counter-protesters (this depends on the size, expectations, etc...).

But, are you asking if the police/city/State have some sort of “constitutional” expectation to keep people safe while they are trying to exercise their basic rights?

IN GENERAL, I would say YES, the police/city/State are supposed to protect people while they are exercising their basic rights.

Are you suggesting that basic protection is too much to ask of the police/city/State?


35 posted on 08/18/2017 8:16:56 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: Cecily

“...violent and hate-spewing Antifa agitator....” What? I thought we’d already been informed that there’s no such thing. Right?


36 posted on 08/18/2017 8:18:20 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: z3n
There is a concept here that I’m not quite grasping in the full philosphical/constitutional sense. Someone help me out here.

Any time groups of people (small or very large) want to “peaceably assemble” under their first amendment rights, the state needs to also assemble an equivalent police force and it’s the fault of the state of the “peaceable” protesters don’t’ stay peaceful?

It seems to me that if they are not peaceful they've lost all constitutional protection and it's the government's job to nip it!

37 posted on 08/18/2017 8:20:08 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Goblins, Orcs and the Undead: Metaphors for the godless left.)
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To: rktman

Politics creates strange bedfellows and all that.


38 posted on 08/18/2017 8:22:53 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden can't be fought)
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To: rktman

Is it Bizaaro World? I actually agree with the ACLU.


39 posted on 08/18/2017 8:23:16 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The police can testify as to what orders were given.

No they won't.

40 posted on 08/18/2017 8:24:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden can't be fought)
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