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Who Was Really at Fault in Charlottesville?
American Greatness ^ | August 16, 2017 | Conrad Black

Posted on 08/17/2017 2:06:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well my opinion of what took place has sure changed from the start. I’m not so sure this wasn’t a set up from the start and I’m not convince that the guy in the Dodge meant to hurt anybody, I can’t say the same about those that not only attacked his car but also the 2 in front of him. I still remember what happen to Reginald Denny when he stopped. I have to ask myself what would I do if my vehicle was being mobbed and I feared for my life. And the way he reacted as soon as they struck his vehicle could have just been a scared reaction to the attack. This isn’t playing out like the MSM initially reported it. I suspect more video and pictures will surface. If the facts change I’ll change my mind!


21 posted on 08/17/2017 2:33:12 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly


22 posted on 08/17/2017 2:35:54 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Did they have a valid permit”

I just checked some documentation and it does not appear that the First Amendment requires a permit to express speech.


23 posted on 08/17/2017 2:37:18 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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Didn’t you just call them “Nazi scum” a minute ago?


24 posted on 08/17/2017 2:40:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the cops


25 posted on 08/17/2017 2:41:47 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Dusty Road

“I suspect more video and pictures will surface. If the facts change I’ll change my mind!”

I suspect that during Mr. Fields’ murder trial in Charlottesville, there will be plenty of footage of the incident and many witnesses to the death of Miss Heyer.

I think it will be the witnesses who were actually there and saw Miss Heyer being killed that will provide the most vital testimony.


26 posted on 08/17/2017 2:43:38 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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“Didn’t you just call them “Nazi scum” a minute ago?”

Even Nazi scum have the right to free speech.


27 posted on 08/17/2017 2:44:44 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

Boy, you blow hot and cold.


28 posted on 08/17/2017 2:45:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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I heard it was a case of mistaken identity.

Er ... Charlottesville ... I thought you said Chancellorsville ...

29 posted on 08/17/2017 2:45:55 PM PDT by x
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30 posted on 08/17/2017 2:55:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Timpanagos1
I think it will be the witnesses who were actually there and saw Miss Heyer being killed that will provide the most vital testimony.

I think it will be a psychiatrist called by the defense and everyone will hate the outcome.

Charlottesville driver previously accused of beating mother

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) — The driver charged with killing a woman at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville was previously accused of beating his mother and threatening her with a knife, according to police records released Monday. Samantha Bloom, who is disabled and uses a wheelchair, repeatedly called police about her son, James Alex Fields Jr., in 2010 and 2011, telling officers he was on medication to control his temper, transcripts from 911 calls show.


31 posted on 08/17/2017 3:00:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Timpanagos1
The First Amendment allows any type of speech but does not ok gatherings by large groups. For that, municipalities may require a permit. We Freepers had many gatherings in the 90's and either had a permit or were advised (when counter-protesting marchers such as anti-world bank huge marches) to stand on the sidewalk in small groups only.

What is never ok by the first amendment is blocking traffic without a parade permit. When the Mayor of Baltimore kept saying that people shutting down roads,including interstate highways, were just exercising their first amendment rights, I was outraged. When no one in any position of authority or media prominence did not call her out on that, I was further dismayed.

32 posted on 08/17/2017 3:02:36 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever.)
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The entire event was organized online by Richard Spencer.

Who are these poor locals that saw their event overtaken by outside agitators?


33 posted on 08/17/2017 3:10:34 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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Being a man who has a history of beating up old ladies in wheelchairs does not typically help the accused’s case in his later murder trial.


34 posted on 08/17/2017 3:11:08 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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...he was on medication to control his temper, transcripts from 911 calls show.

Having a documented history of mental illness does. Your sophistry is a fail. lol

35 posted on 08/17/2017 3:13:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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“Having a documented history of mental illness does. Your sophistry is a fail. lol”

Hang on?

You believe that having a history of mental illness should be grounds for exonerating a person of a murder charge?

That’s funny!


36 posted on 08/17/2017 3:21:55 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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Why did the police and the Gov’ just stand by to the side. Why didn’t tear gas canisters and pepper spray fall upon these folks like rain.


37 posted on 08/17/2017 3:25:12 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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It should exonerate the people that the media are trying to tie him to.


38 posted on 08/17/2017 3:27:32 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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You believe that having a history of mental illness should be grounds for exonerating a person of a murder charge?

Putting words in my mouth to create a straw man argument is pretty funny too.

39 posted on 08/17/2017 3:27:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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His alleged beating his mother has nothing to do with committing a terrorist act.


40 posted on 08/17/2017 3:31:54 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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