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CNN Commentator: George Washington And Thomas Jefferson Statues ‘Need To Come Down’
The Daily Caller ^ | 08/17/2017 | PETER HASSON

Posted on 08/17/2017 1:07:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

Two days after President Trump questioned whether tearing down Confederate statues would lead leftists to targeting statues and monuments to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers, CNN commentator Angela Rye did exactly that.

“We have to get to the heart of the problem here and the heart is the way many of us were taught American history. American history is not all glorious,” Rye said in a heated segment on Thursday.

“George Washington was a slave owner. We need to call them out for what they are, whether we think they were protecting American freedom or not. He wasn’t protecting my freedoms. My ancestors weren’t deemed human beings to him. And so to me, I don’t care if it’s a George Washington statue or a Thomas Jefferson statue, they all need to come down,” she added.

Rye’s comments, which were first pointed out by the Washington Free Beacon on Thursday, come amidst heated national debate on whether to tear down Confederate monuments and statues around the country.

President Trump weighed in on the debate on Thursday.

“Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments,” Trump tweeted. “You can’t change history, but you can learn from it. Robert E Lee, Stonewall Jackson – who’s next, Washington, Jefferson? So foolish!”


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To: stranger and pilgrim

I said the same thing and it has happened much sooner than I thought it would.


61 posted on 08/17/2017 1:31:13 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: robroys woman

How about:

Dear Angela,

Opinions vary. If I want yours I’ll ask for it.


62 posted on 08/17/2017 1:31:35 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Mr. Mojo
When observing that the Founders were “slave owners,” one must consider the historical context within which those Founders found themselves, as well as the enormous contributions they and their generations made toward eradicating slavery from these shores and creating a constitutional republic which could, ultimately, affirm and protect the rights of ALL people:

Of special interest in that regard is Jefferson's “Autobiography,” especially that portion which states:

"The first establishment in Virginia which became permanent was made in 1607.  I have found no mention of negroes in the colony until about 1650. The first brought here as slaves were by a Dutch ship; after which the English commenced the trade and continued it until the revolutionary war. That suspended...their future importation for the present, and the business of the war pressing constantly on the (Virginia) legislature, this subject was not acted on finally until the year 1778, when I brought a bill to prevent their further importation. This passed without opposition, leaving to future efforts its final eradication."

Jefferson also observed:

"Where the disease [slavery] is most deeply seated, there it will be slowest in eradication. In the northern States, it was merely superficial and easily corrected. In the southern, it is incorporated with the whole system and requires time, patience, and perseverance in the curative process."

He explained that, "In 1769, I became a member of the legislature by the choice of the county in which I live [Albemarle County, Virginia], and so continued until it was closed by the Revolution. I made one effort in that body for the permission of the emancipation of slaves, which was rejected: and indeed, during the regal [crown] government, nothing [like this] could expect success."

Here is another quotation, cited in David Barton's work on the subject of the Founders and slavery, which also cites the fact that there were laws in the State of Virginia which prevented citizens from emancipating slaves:

"The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other. Our children see this and learn to imitate it; for man is an imitative animal. This quality is the germ of all education in him. From his cradle to his grave he is learning to do what he sees others do. If a parent could find no motive either in his philanthropy or his self-love for restraining the intemperance of passion towards his slave, it should always be a sufficient one that his child is present. But generally it is not sufficient. . . . The man must be a prodigy who can retain his manners and morals undepraved by such circumstances. And with what execration should the statesman be loaded who permits one half the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other. . . . And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep for ever. . . . The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest. . . . [T]he way, I hone [is] preparing under the auspices of Heaven for a total emancipation."

A visit to David Barton’s web site (www.wallbuilders.com) provides an essential, excellent and factual written record of the Founders' views on the matter of slavery. One source he does not quote, I believe, is the famous 1775 Edmund Burke "Speech on Conciliation" before the British Parliament, wherein he admonished the Parliament for its Proposal to declare a general enfranchisement of the slaves in America.

Burke rather sarcastically observed that should the Parliament carry through with the  Proposal before it:   "Slaves as these unfortunate black people are, and dull as all men are from slavery, must they not a little suspect the offer of freedom from that very nation (England) which has sold them to their present masters? from that nation, one of whose causes of quarrel with those masters is their refusal to deal any more in that inhuman traffic?"

He continued: "An offer of freedom from England would come rather oddly, shipped to them in an African vessel, which is refused an entry into the ports of Virginia or Carolina, with a cargo of three hundred Angola negroes. It would be curious to see the Guinea captain attempting at the same instant to publish his proclamation of liberty and to advertise his sale of slaves."

Ahhh,  how knowledge of the facts can alter one's opinion of the revisionist history that has been taught for generations in American schools (including its so-called "law schools"!!)

Human beings are allotted ONLY A TINY SLIVER OF TIME ON THIS EARTH. (Pardon shouting) Each finds the world and his/her own community/nation existing as it is.

If lawyers and judges cared enough to educate themselves (in this day of the Internet) on the history of civilization and America's real history, and if they used that knowledge and the resulting understanding, to do as much on behalf of liberty for ALL people as did Thomas Jefferson and America's other Founders, the world in the next century would be a better place.

Remember, Thomas Jefferson was only 33 years old when he penned our Declaration of Independence which capsulized a truly revolutionary idea into a simple statement that survives to this day to inspire people all over the world to strive for liberty!  

63 posted on 08/17/2017 1:32:20 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: rovenstinez

“...and sit with Whoppi...”

Heh, heh, that’s the best take on her name I’ve ever seen!

;^)


64 posted on 08/17/2017 1:32:37 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Mr. Mojo

The KKK Was the Terrorist Arm of the Democratic Party

The True And Detailed Racist History Of The Democrat Party

Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party

65 posted on 08/17/2017 1:32:45 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: rbg81
It will lead to even crazier demands.

As we saw when we went from decriminalizing sodomy to mandatory celebrations of same-sex weddings.

66 posted on 08/17/2017 1:33:23 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: bigbob

That’s a bad representation of Clinton. His zipper is zipped, for one.


67 posted on 08/17/2017 1:33:51 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: glennaro

The people tearing down the statues and making the most noise are white liberals, more than blacks. The true danger to our nation are the white leftists and their stupidity.


68 posted on 08/17/2017 1:33:58 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: Mr. Mojo

Yeah, but what about George Jefferson statues?


69 posted on 08/17/2017 1:35:05 PM PDT by subterfuge (Save the monuments!!)
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To: wattsgnu

You win the internet.
We can all go home now.


70 posted on 08/17/2017 1:35:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Where is evil? Often where you least expect it.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Just another ignorant racist.


71 posted on 08/17/2017 1:37:33 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: LydiaLong

“There goes Mt. Rushmore.”

No, if these people got their way, the Mt would be redone, four removed and one big Obama face put up there.


72 posted on 08/17/2017 1:37:39 PM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: freepertoo

Sometimes I wonder if they’re not *trying* to hand Trump a second term.


73 posted on 08/17/2017 1:37:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Where is evil? Often where you least expect it.)
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To: Mozzafiato
The people tearing down the statues and making the most noise are white liberals, more than blacks. The true danger to our nation are the white leftists and their stupidity.

You can say That again!

74 posted on 08/17/2017 1:38:19 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Mr. Mojo

Well, that didn’t take long.


75 posted on 08/17/2017 1:38:44 PM PDT by al_c (LIBERAL - Laughable Iconsiderate Blaming Entitled Ranting Anti-christian Loudmouth)
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To: robroys woman

ANY Liberal’s opinion is a turd in a punch bowl...


76 posted on 08/17/2017 1:38:46 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Jim 0216

Why the redundancy?


77 posted on 08/17/2017 1:40:06 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Mr. Mojo; Donald J Trump

According to Wikipedia, Black Supremacist Angela Rye is a US Attorney. We have NO ROOM for race-bigots in the US Atorney’s office!!! Black Supremacist Angela Rye must resign or be fired!


78 posted on 08/17/2017 1:40:47 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Mr. Mojo

None of this crap was an a major national issue a week ago. One would THINK that during the prior administration such a concern would have been put front and center and the leftards satisfied by their pathetic ideologue. It’s all bullshit.

IF the left wants to go after corrupt, racist, violent extremists - they ought to look in the mirror.


79 posted on 08/17/2017 1:41:56 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: Mozzafiato

I acknowledge the truth of what you say. Because of their comments today, my anger is (at least today) is more directed at people like Sharpton, this legislator and a commentator on Fox ... all of whom are educated people who have done very well in America and should know better than to tear our Republic down!


80 posted on 08/17/2017 1:42:01 PM PDT by glennaro
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