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Can Google Get Away With It?
Forbes ^ | August 10, 2017 | George Leef

Posted on 08/10/2017 12:12:18 PM PDT by reaganaut1

For any readers who don’t know about this case already, “it” refers to Google’s decision to fire an engineer because he posted a ten-page internal memo that took issue with some of the firm’s policies, especially its “diversity” stance.

(The text of the memo, written by James Damore, is available here, but note the misleading characterization of his writing as a “screed” – much of the leftist media treated Damore’s work as if it were something scarcely this side of Mein Kampf.)

In a nutshell, Damore, who says here that he wrote the memo after taking part in a Google diversity program, criticizes the way the company goes about fostering diversity. It’s calm, carefully worded, and supported by science. Nevertheless, it caused the company’s leadership to blow a gasket. Damore delenda est!

Google’s CEO, Sundar Pichai explained the company’s decision to terminate Damore, saying that while “we strongly support the right of Googlers to express themselves,” Damore’s affiliation with the company could no longer continue because “portions of the memo cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.”

This is reminiscent of the old Soviet Union, where people who dared to think were apt to be labeled “deviationist” and sent to Siberia. Because he dared to question some aspects of Google’s diversity mania, Damore is a deviationist. He can’t be sent to Siberia, but he can be fired, never again to either use his evident engineering talents for Google or make other Googlers feel hurt or afraid because there’s a dissident lurking around.

Many people are asking this $64,000 (or perhaps more like $64 million) dollar question: Does Damore have a legal case against Google.

Some people think he does.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: damore; google
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1 posted on 08/10/2017 12:12:18 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

I’m studying the French Revolution a bit. Interesting how the Left back then praised liberty & equality, then proceeded to kill everyone that even slightly disagreed with the party line - including those who pulled off 90% of the Revolution in the first place.


2 posted on 08/10/2017 12:16:25 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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They got away with firing someone for his views. An employer can do whatever it wants. Yes, it’s wrong, but they can do it. There is no recourse.

All the major corporations have gone over to the left, and are enforcing the new laws of fascism regarding thoughts about gays and m*slims. There is no freedom of speech or opinion.

When the government does it, it violates the Constitution, so it needs to rename what it’s doing and to use “nice” words, like “hate” speech, and the various phobias.


3 posted on 08/10/2017 12:19:48 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Insanity, even when disguised by a nice-sounding name, is still insanity.)
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If he had been on the opposite, viz. leveling staunch criticism at some corporation that was ignoring the rights of fags, etc, he would "get away with it." But he apparently is a conservative and, by now, we all realize he has no right, no right! Of freedom of opinion.

He could sue but, since the joke of a judicial system has been stacked with libs and fags, he'd lose.

4 posted on 08/10/2017 12:19:50 PM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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Damore must have known that he was entering an intolerant snake pit when he got hired. That would make a lawsuit more challenging.


5 posted on 08/10/2017 12:19:57 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (rightwingcrazy)
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To: ctdonath2

Robespierre met his karma..............


6 posted on 08/10/2017 12:20:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: I want the USA back

Corporations “are enforcing the new laws of fascism regarding thoughts “.

They have no choice if they are to defend against ‘equal rights’ suits.
So it’s really the government that is banning the speech- despite the First Amendment.


7 posted on 08/10/2017 12:23:17 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s probably illegal, but as much weight as Google carries, they’ll almost certainly get away with it.


8 posted on 08/10/2017 12:27:23 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: reaganaut1
He learned a few valuable lessons:

1. Don't trust HR. They don't work for you. They work for the company.

2. "Free speech" isn't really free of consequence, especially in the workplace.

3. When a company asks for feedback, they aren't really asking for feedback.

4. When a company says "diversity," they're really talking about discriminating against white men. They're not talking about diversity of opinion. They don't want to know the truth.

5. Your coworkers will, by and large, throw you under the bus to show how virtuous they are and to get in good with management.

9 posted on 08/10/2017 12:28:49 PM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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Google’s CEO, Sundar Pichai explained that while “we strongly support the right of Googlers to express themselves,” Damore’s affiliation with the company could no longer continue because “portions of the memo cross the line by advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.”

So Pichai said they say they support workers expressing themselves, but they really don't.

10 posted on 08/10/2017 12:29:55 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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I highly recommend the movie, “The REd Pill” to anyone reading this. It appears, from the ten page document, that this guy has seen that movie and is quoting some info from it.

It looks like, thanks to the publicity and response this letter is getting, along with the environment into which it has been thrust, that we may be seeing the end of the feminist movement as we know it.

That is a very good thing for both men and women.


11 posted on 08/10/2017 12:39:46 PM PDT by robroys woman
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To: ctdonath2
I’m studying the French Revolution a bit. Interesting how the Left back then praised liberty & equality, then proceeded to kill everyone that even slightly disagreed with the party line - including those who pulled off 90% of the Revolution in the first place.

I believe the terms: 'Left wing', and 'Right wing', came from the French Revolution. I'm not sure if this part is true, but a pastor claimed that the Revolutionist socialists were so anti-Christian that they insisted that they wanted to be known as the 'goats on Christ's left hand' - and to have nothing to do with the sheep on Christ's right hand. Thus they called themselves the Left.

The official etymology is that the Socialists wanted to be associated with the 'commoners' who sat on the left side of the National Assembly, and not the aristocrats who sat on the right side - but I suspect that the pastor's claim has some truth to it. The socialists of the French Revolution were definitely anti-Christ and anti-God.

12 posted on 08/10/2017 12:44:40 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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I can only presume how you have gained such insights, but you are spot on.


13 posted on 08/10/2017 12:46:58 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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Maybe he can make a case that Google is a hostile workplace? Seems interesting that their diversity chief said all okay, only to then have the CEO fire the guy. Anyway, I’m sure he has a case, likely use Google’s own policies and practices against them. Did the guy use the internal forum incorrectly or was the topic just inconvenient?


14 posted on 08/10/2017 12:49:26 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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I can only presume how you have gained such insights, but you are spot on.

Thanks. As you might have guessed, these insights came through hard experience.

15 posted on 08/10/2017 12:50:21 PM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: thesharkboy
He learned a few valuable lessons:
1. Don't trust HR. They don't work for you. They work for the company.
2. "Free speech" isn't really free of consequence, especially in the workplace.
3. When a company asks for feedback, they aren't really asking for feedback.
4. When a company says "diversity," they're really talking about discriminating against white men. They're not talking about diversity of opinion. They don't want to know the truth.
5. Your coworkers will, by and large, throw you under the bus to show how virtuous they are and to get in good with management.

Everyone who wants to last in the corporate or government work force should take that list to heart.

16 posted on 08/10/2017 12:50:28 PM PDT by chud
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To: Reno89519
Did the guy use the internal forum incorrectly...

Yes. He told the truth.

17 posted on 08/10/2017 12:51:38 PM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: thesharkboy
"When a company asks for feedback, they aren't really asking for feedback."

Actually it's easy to create a targeted survey sent to one or a few selected individuals but ostensibly randomly distributed.

The effort is to get the unsuspecting, suspected employees to be on record with their unPC opinions and make a firing easier to stick.

18 posted on 08/10/2017 12:56:05 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: reaganaut1

Bkmk


19 posted on 08/10/2017 12:57:59 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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I just finished the ten pages.

When Google fired him, they proved his point.

That is a VERY well written docuement that presses most of the buttons on the PC world in which we now live. It nails them to the wall. It will be fun to see how this plays out both in the court of public opinion and in a real courtroom.

He said nothing in there that I saw as damaging to anyone. They just don’t like the concepts he rightly brings up.


20 posted on 08/10/2017 12:58:49 PM PDT by robroys woman
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