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Another of those gun confiscations which we’re told never happens
hotair.com ^ | 8/5/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 08/06/2017 8:43:49 AM PDT by rktman

When elected officials, at both the federal and state levels, propose new gun control laws we are given the same speech every time. Stop crying wolf. It’s not as if armed officers are about to go door to door confiscating everyone’s guns.

Well… don’t. Yet another story has emerged from New York State detailing the travails of a citizen who had his firearms taken away by armed officers with a warrant. The NRA-ILA brings us the tale of Don Hall, a 70 year old Vietnam veteran who received an unpleasant visit from Sheriff’s deputies at his Talberg, N.Y. home. They informed him that the state had provided them with a writ to seize his firearms. Compliance was not voluntary and his weapons were taken.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; newyork
70 year old Viet Nam vet? Obviously a threat and a danger to himself and the surrounding community.
1 posted on 08/06/2017 8:43:50 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Where is the (actual, literal) money part of the story?


2 posted on 08/06/2017 8:47:00 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: rktman

This is why gun registration is just a bad idea.


3 posted on 08/06/2017 8:48:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: rktman

The Second Amendment was originally intended to be an absolute right not abridged by any of the common “Blue State” gun bans on categories of people and or the permitting system of “Open Carry” or “Concealed Carry” that’s commonly used in the “Red States” either.


4 posted on 08/06/2017 8:49:03 AM PDT by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: rktman

When elected officials, at both the federal and state levels, propose new gun control laws , we are given nothing but horse hockey.


5 posted on 08/06/2017 8:51:24 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: rktman

Man, Hot Air is a total shell of its formerly self. It used to be my 2nd favorite place to go.


6 posted on 08/06/2017 8:57:28 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: Paladin2

Hmmm. Well, since the person affected was “labled/classified” as a mental defective, it would seem to me that a certain former congress person from AZ would also be classified as such. And a current AZ senator as well since he’s having some radiation treatment to his remaining brain cells. Money shot for me.


7 posted on 08/06/2017 8:59:29 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

Weapons? What weapons? I had some guns at one time — never used as weapons, by the way — but those were lost years ago in the flood. Or was it the tornado? Anyway, thanks for your time, officers. Now best be on your way.


8 posted on 08/06/2017 9:04:59 AM PDT by IronJack
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...remaining brain CELL!

FIXED IT!


9 posted on 08/06/2017 9:06:52 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Roger that. Money money money. Or something.


10 posted on 08/06/2017 9:11:52 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Big Red Badger

And it was a liberal one at that.


11 posted on 08/06/2017 9:12:41 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman
Something close to this happened in CA when DoJ looted DROS fees to fund a program regarding Armed Prohibited Persons, which mostly turned out to be a LEO full employment project. Turned out at the state level that CA has/had a hiring freeze on LEO. But this program was exempt and they allowed "lateral transfers" from it which opened up a window of opportunity that many qualified people jumped on but it had a LOT of instability as they transferred out ASAP. Kind of like money laundering except for LEOs.

So they compared lists of people with guns with people convicted of disqualifying events (not necessarily a crime) and DoJ agents went to the house to seize the firearm(s). But here's the joke, it was voluntary. Of course they didn't tell you that. They yell and threaten but the 4th Amendment is still in some kind of effect and without a search warrant they CANNOT enter your house and (here's the catch) your name showing up in a computer printout is not probably cause for issuance of a search warrant.

Net net: be polite but firm. DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR. Ask for a search warrant. If one is not forthcoming, wish them a nice day and studiously ignore them afterwards. Eventually they will move on.

12 posted on 08/06/2017 9:15:27 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: rktman

Liberal Tears...

True Comedy!


13 posted on 08/06/2017 9:15:39 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: rktman
Abortion activists have been successful in eliminating every threat to their sacrament because they “NEVER GIVE AN INCH”

What sane people would consider reasonable restrictions like maybe age of the unborn, licensure, proper health inspections or maybe even fully informed consent and they come against it with fury unmatched by any group except maybe ISIS regarding other religions.

They continue to hold the “legal” ground 40 plus years since Roe v Wade because they give no ground, ever for anything.

14 posted on 08/06/2017 9:16:18 AM PDT by deepestsouth1
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To: rktman
People really need to leave states like this.

We pick up stuff at yard sales all the time...right now we are looking for a flag pole because a dear elderly friend gave me her RIP husband's flag that they handed to her at the military funeral. She wants us to fly it.

15 posted on 08/06/2017 9:17:14 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: rktman

And these will be used as monthly bonus prizes to the officer who writes the most tickets that month.


16 posted on 08/06/2017 9:17:41 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: deepestsouth1

Yeah, someone could learn a thing or two about tenacity.


17 posted on 08/06/2017 9:18:30 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Paladin2

Don Hall was labeled a “mental defective” leading to the seizure of his property. But the documents the Sheriffs presented had obvious flaws, including multiple Social Security numbers. It was a long and arduous journey to discover the hospital where a clerical error was made entering Don’s information instead of a patient who was being treated for mental health issues. So this turned out to be a bureaucratic blunder, but it’s hardly an isolated case.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20170804/firearm-registration-plus-bureaucratic-incompetence-seizure-of-innocent-veteran-s-guns-in-new-york


18 posted on 08/06/2017 9:26:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: IronJack

He registered the guns with the state as required by law. There was a database error caused by government incompetence and he became an illegal gun owner because of what the VA database said. The cops showed up with the proper paperwork (under state law) to take his property.

He had to sue to get them back.


19 posted on 08/06/2017 9:29:32 AM PDT by wrench
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