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U.S. investigators seek to turn Manafort in Russia probe: sources
Reuters ^ | 07/22/2017 | Julia Edwards Ainsley and John Walcott

Posted on 07/22/2017 8:01:24 AM PDT by Rusty0604

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To: RummyChick

“The statement given to Robert Mueller was anything but specific. It simply stated that Mueller was to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” and “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.”

With such a sweeping mandate...”

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/345538-opinion-why-its-high-time-rod-rosenstein-recuse-himself

Turkey. Flynn. Turkey is not Russia


141 posted on 08/10/2017 5:10:38 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: JonPreston
>>Everyone he knows or has dealt with in the past 20 years should be pardoned publicly and prophylacticly.<<

Yep, it renders Mueller useless.

And yet another special prosecutor should be appointed to expose Mueller and his band of big RAT-donor "investigators". After all, they are RATs...guaranteed to be dirty, they will not be able to stand up to scrutiny.

142 posted on 08/10/2017 5:37:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs and RINOs...same thing)
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To: RummyChick
-- Are you going to still claim that Mueller is outside his scope agreed upon with Rosenstein --

You have me confused with somebody else.

143 posted on 08/10/2017 5:39:35 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yes, DJT does offense, not defense, so full steam ahead!


144 posted on 08/10/2017 5:43:32 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Cboldt

Oh no..I have it right...just look at your posts on this thread...

Including calling me a kook for saying manafort and his shady dealings with son in law would get roped into this investigation.along with his many other business dealings.

..meanwhile..news out today that NY handed over their manafort money laundering investigation to mueller.

.this isnt a case of a Watergate break in..this is a complex issue involving foreign countries and money


145 posted on 08/10/2017 10:31:26 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
-- just look at your posts on this thread... --

Yes. I encourage people to read what I wrote, and to reject your interpretation of what I wrote.

As I pointed out, you will argue that whatever Mueller takes on, he is justified in taking on. The proof being that he took it on.

I'm not going to bother asking you want you position is. You lie like a rug.

146 posted on 08/10/2017 10:46:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Again..that is not what I said.

Meanwhile...you claim he is outside his scope. Turley indicated Mueller has a sweeping broad mandate.

And that is what I said..shady business dealing are fair game given that manafort and trump have been closely associated with known russian money launders


147 posted on 08/10/2017 10:53:00 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
We had this discussion already. See post 84 and your reply at post 90.

As I said in post 120 ...

Your argument boils down to "If Mueller takes on a case, it is in his jurisdiction." You intend to prove your argument is the correct one by pointing to Mueller having taken the case.

148 posted on 08/10/2017 11:07:07 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

That isnt my argument.

Lets be clear. You think he is already outside the scope

I think if he finds a trail he can follow it
I did not say it is a case of “ I am Robert Mueller so I can do anything I want”


149 posted on 08/10/2017 11:18:37 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
-- Lets be clear. You think he is already outside the scope --

I don't know what he is or is not pursuing, with any precision.

Our differences as to what Mueller's scope properly is, are previously expressed. You have not introduced any specific investigation to our argument, even as a hypothetical, but so far, you are true to the form I outlined. Whatever it is that Mueller is investigating, you see as within his scope.

You point to any news or speculation of what Mueller is investigating as validation of your point. No argument needed from your end. You assert he can follow any trail. Whatever he is doing is following a trail, and because he is following a trail, it is in the scope of his assignment.

Post to me when you find him out of bounds. Reminding me that you believe he is inbounds is a waste of your energy.

150 posted on 08/10/2017 11:58:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

I cant post that to you because i am not privy to the trail.You on the other hand claimed on this thread he is already out of bounds

Is he out of bounds with Turkey? It isnt russia


151 posted on 08/10/2017 12:05:16 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
-- You on the other hand claimed on this thread he is already out of bounds --

No, I did not. My remarks as to what Mueller is in fact investigating are at most conditional. post 46 ...

Mueller is WAY OUT OF LINE if [<- That is the conditional] he is looking for crimes not associated with the Trump campaign, which didn't even exist before 2015.

At post 78, I describe my view of the scope, without reference to what Mueller might be investigating.

At post 84, I argued that a Manafort money laundering case is outside Mueller's jurisdiction. I did not argue that Mueller was or was not investigating that case, only that it was not properly Mueller's.

At post 120, I expressly said that "Neither of us needs to know for a fact what Mueller is investigating."

The rest of our back and forth turns on the question I put to you at post 109 ...

So how exactly is "Mueller's authorization includes events not related to the Trump campaign" a misstatment of your position?

152 posted on 08/10/2017 12:33:36 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

One more time

A trail that leads to needing to investigate ties to russian mobsters .money laundering criminals...and real estate transactions can ABSOLUTELY be part of the scope.

You are claiming it cannot. Is that right?


153 posted on 08/10/2017 1:26:55 PM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: RummyChick
We went through this Q&A already, and as far as I and concerned, established that you and I disagree on the scope of Mueller's grant.

-- A trail that leads to needing to investigate ties to russian mobsters .money laundering criminals...and real estate transactions can ABSOLUTELY be part of the scope. --

So can human trafficking, drug trafficking, murder and kidnapping, if it's directly tied to the campaign. But if the investigation into criminal activity is not tied to the Trump campaign, it is still in Sessions' portfolio. Rosenstein would be out of bounds giving part of Sessions' portfolio to Mueller.

154 posted on 08/10/2017 1:49:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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