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Shooting of MN Woman By Somali Cop Mohamed Noor While She Was Talking to His Partner
GP ^ | 7-18-2017 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 07/18/2017 10:23:21 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: bramps

I don’t, but I heard that reported on the TODAY show this morning


41 posted on 07/18/2017 11:31:59 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: shotgun

In law, homicide simply means the killing of a person. But, not all homicides are crimes. Homicides include all killings of humans. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self defense are not crimes.


42 posted on 07/18/2017 11:43:23 AM PDT by aligncare ( Make America Great Again! Kick a NeverTrumper to the curb)
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To: CGASMIA68

And I hear the body cams were turned off. That’s another question to be answered.


43 posted on 07/18/2017 11:43:30 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Thank you. I did not know that.


44 posted on 07/18/2017 11:44:07 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: BenLurkin

No indications she was chasing any one.
She obviously went out to me the cops.
To assume she was chasing any one, especially a sexual predator, is lunacy


45 posted on 07/18/2017 11:44:18 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: shotgun; bramps

“The County Corner has already ruled her death a homicide.”

FYI - “homicide” just means “the act of killing another person”. It does NOT indicate fault/guilt (e.g., murder, manslaughter, etc.).

IOW - if you kill a person in self-defense, their death would still be a “homicide” (albeit ‘justifiable’).

All that being said, I am VERY interested in hearing how the officer “justified” this shooting of an unarmed woman. My guess is that he will claim that he thought her cell phone was a gun.


46 posted on 07/18/2017 11:46:39 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: zaxtres

Dont waste your time,especially at dial up speeds


47 posted on 07/18/2017 11:47:46 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: shotgun
The County Corner has already ruled her death a homicide.

Of course it was a homicide. It wasn't a suicide. She didn't die of cancer.

"Homicide" only means "killed by another person" and is not necessarily criminal.

48 posted on 07/18/2017 11:49:07 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: aligncare
42

Correct.

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In Forensic Pathology 'Manner of Death' is defined as how the death came about; a judgment based on circumstances surrounding the fatal event.

In most jurisdictions the following categories are used:

Natural: due entirely (or nearly so) to natural disease processes.

Homicide: due to a volitional act of another person with the intent to cause fear, harm or death. Homicidal manner does not indicate a criminal homicide, which is determined by the legal process and not by the certifier of death.

Suicide: due to injury that occurred with the intent to induce self harm or cause one's own death.

Accident: due to injury when there is no evidence of intent to harm.

Undetermined: inadequate information regarding the circumstances of death to determine manner; example: individual found unconscious with massive subdural hemorrhage; in the absence of information on the events leading up to death, it is impossible to determine if the hemorrhage is due to accidental fall, homicidal violence, etc.

When death is due to a combination of natural and unnatural events, preference is generally given to the nonnatural cause; example: a man suffers a myocardial infarction while swimming in the ocean, loses consciousness, and drowns; the manner of death is ruled accident, as he may potentially have survived if the fatal myocardial infarction had occurred on land.

The "but for" principle asks the question "But for the inciting injury (or event), would the decedent still be alive?"

In most jurisdictions, deaths due to motor vehicle collisions are considered accidental in manner.

Deaths due to complications of medical therapy that are reasonably expectable (e.g. neutropenia due to chemotherapy, digoxin toxicity) are considered natural.

Deaths due to improper use of medical devices or improper therapy (e.g. malfunctioning morphine drip, failure to repair obvious arterial injury inflicted during surgery) are considered accidental.

While acute alcohol or drug toxicity is considered an accidental death, deaths due to consequences of chronic substance abuse (hepatic cirrhosis due to ethanol abuse, endocarditis secondary to IV drug use) are conventionally considered natural in manner.

49 posted on 07/18/2017 11:58:11 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: CGASMIA68

If you want to go talk to the cops in your PJs, I won’t try to stop you from doing that either.


50 posted on 07/18/2017 11:58:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: servo1969

51 posted on 07/18/2017 11:59:56 AM PDT by Gritty (Islam is king on a field of corpses - Mark Steyn)
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To: servo1969
Sudden HIDDEN Jihadi syndrome.

52 posted on 07/18/2017 12:04:13 PM PDT by Company Man (Begun, the meme wars have.)
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To: shotgun

What kind of homicide? Homicides range from justifiable to murder 1.


53 posted on 07/18/2017 12:08:17 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: bramps; shotgun
Homicide: death of a human being. Later it will be either capital murder, 1st degree murder, 2nd degree murder, manslaughter, negligent homicide, accidental homicide, suicide, justifiable homicide, etc.

I think he had his booger hooks on the bang switch and will be charged with negligent homicide IMHO.

54 posted on 07/18/2017 12:11:15 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: servo1969

This must have been jihad. No other explanation - at least not yet.


55 posted on 07/18/2017 12:12:49 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: CGASMIA68

Only other witness is the other cop.....BS. He probably found riding with the turd as punishment. I know. For punishment I was given the ass...e of the squad. I told him he was on riverine patrol, look for stolen boats. I brought coffee and lunch for the turd. One time I forgot to pick him up at COB.


56 posted on 07/18/2017 12:12:49 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: servo1969

The Moslem is a Christianphobe.


57 posted on 07/18/2017 12:15:31 PM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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To: DCBryan1

“I think he had his booger hooks on the bang switch and will be charged with negligent homicide IMHO.”

You’re probably right and I suspect it was a Glock. I’ll take my Beretta Model 96 any time because the first shot takes a strong DA pull.


58 posted on 07/18/2017 12:18:02 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: zaxtres

You can look on Google Maps street view - it looks like a pretty nice area.


59 posted on 07/18/2017 12:18:32 PM PDT by Stingray51
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To: servo1969

Another thing that bears repeating is that he shot her multiple times according to reports yesterday. That is NOT an accidental discharge. He intended to kill her.


60 posted on 07/18/2017 12:24:46 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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