Posted on 07/05/2017 8:52:54 PM PDT by grundle
Chemotherapy could allow cancer to spread, and trigger more aggressive tumours, a new study suggests.
Researchers in the US studied the impact of drugs on patients with breast cancer and found medication increases the chance of cancer cells migrating to other parts of the body, where they are almost always lethal.
Around 55,000 women are diagnosed with breast cancer in Britain every year and 11,000 will die from their illness.
Many are given chemotherapy before surgery, but the new research suggests that, although it shrinks tumours in the short term, it could trigger the spread of cancer cells around the body.
It is thought the toxic medication switches on a repair mechanism in the body which ultimately allows tumours to grow back stronger. It also increases the number of ‘doorways’ on blood vessels which allow cancer to spread throughout the body.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Exactly. Chemo, along with other treatments are effective. As I mentioned, one of my daughters worked at Genentech for years and was involved in studying the drugs and clinical trials. Millions of research dollars are invested, years go by, and only effective drugs are approved by the FDA and are sold. Many others are not. That is one reason the drugs are expensive, to cover all the research invested.
My wife's doctor was very honest with her about the treatments and their effects. As in, chemo is a poison against cancer cells but reduces immunity against other illness. So my wife was careful to avoid situations where her reduced immune system could pick up other illnesses. She's had surgeries for over 20 years against several different cancer types, then about 10 years ago radiation and chemo began. Her prognosis was that she could die within a couple years, with or without treatment. Here it is, 10 years later and she is in remission. She does not understand why she was afflicted with cancers, as there is no family history, she has always eaten healthy foods, never drank alcohol or smoked, and exercised daily and was fit otherwise. She just had a chemo treatment last month, and is monitored if cancer were to reoccur. But she also is happy to be alive to spend time with our grandchildren, something that would not be possible without the medical wonders of chemotherapy.
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Look into chaga mushroom extract. You need a double extract. The mushroom is an immune modulator and will help calm a over stimulated immune systems. Also contains beta glucans to reduce the load on t cell production. For unknown reasons seems to activate cell apoctosys while strength in cellular bonding to reduce tumor spread. It also reduces cancer camouflage and as a final bonus speeds recovery from radiation treatment.
There are over a hundred medical studies done in Russia on Chaga. It is the best anti cancer herbal substance I have seen. You must use both a water and alcohol extract, called a double extract. We ( my wife and I) hunt it up here in Alaska.
I’ve read a little about fibro, and am starting to think fibro and post chemo effects are very similar. You are right, it can be debilitating. I’m happy to be alive and have come a long way mentally to feel this way. It took a solid year after treatment to say I’d do it again should I relapse. For a while there, I wasn’t so sure.
I don’t know where the day went, but I plan to read up on this. If you come across something, ping me ok.
I don’t think your oncologist has missed anything on this subject as it’s a relatively new discussion in a medical journal. But, she’s aware of post BC leukemias. (Stay up on leukemia symptoms) Did your wife have daubirubicin (sp?). There’s different names for it, but, it’s read and it’s heavy duty. I had 3 days of that one. And several others. I can’t tell you which chemo specifically kicked my butt, but I heard that one is pretty strong.
Btw- fibro is another medical diagnosis that needs more research and assistance.
Thank You
Great strides have been made in the Treatments.
I’m happy for you to have found that Drug and are still with Us.
And Yes being the Primary Caregiver is very tough.
Especially when You lose the War.
Ping to myself so I can read the whacko responses later.
I had the exact same experience with a mammogram... they first said it was fine and then called me and said no - that I needed to come in for further tests.
I didn’t.
than was almost 40 years ago. ;)
And some years before that, I had an operation for cervical cancer. the Doc said he was pretty sure they got it all - I had no further treatment.
Two years later, they said a pap smear showed stage 4 -
I had a feeling I was OK. I had a blessing - went back for another pap smear - another place. No problems.
Thanks I will check that out for sure-
no had one called 5-fu- wasn’t too bad- wasn’t breast cancer- colon- got kinda sick but not intolerable-
I’m sure the oncologist is checking for signs- hope she knows about the breakaway cells- I’m sure she must-
You are 100% correct. This is one article about a specific type of cancer. I know many people whose lives have been saved due to chemo. I really resent the anti big pharma sentiment. Doctors are here to help the sick and advance the science.
Just about all people diagnosed with cancer would die an early and painful death if they took your advice.
“Good thing for the insurance industry that the lobbyists got the deductible so high. The pills cost a penny to make and the radiation machine costs almost nothing to run.
It’s all profit to them.
You, loose.”
Free market isn’t about setting prices to offset costs, but based on the demand and supply elasticities. You charge what the market pays for. Stop blaming the insurance companies and drinking the single payer koolaid.
It’s kind of obvious in that chemo destroys people
Or maybe chemo kills off the easy cancer cells ... allowing the more aggressive cells to survive, multiply, and take hold.
As a nurse, I have seen many patients fight cancer with chemo and radiation, for years, then the die anyway, often from the body’s exhaustion and malnutrition from the treatments, just as much as the cancers themselves. But there are some cancers that have good outcomes. It looks like the newer types of treatments that have to do with the genes and immune system are very promising.
What is galling to me, is that most oncologists push chemo when they know that it’s not that effective, then when it’s obviously not working, will then send the patient off to their health system employer’s, “cutting edge” treatments, such as cyber knife, when they could have done that in the first place. But then, they wouldn’t have made as much money. And I’m not one who thinks all doctors are in it for the money, but oncology is a different animal altogether.
It’s not market demand when big Pharma is in bed with politicians. Don’t assume so much about others you come of as obnoxious and obscure the wisdom you have to offer.
You know nothing about the actualities of cancer, God bless.
Vitamin, makes calcium work better, Mag is a mineral, Oxide is the least absorbed form, Citrate at half your Calcium tabs. strontium is another bone builder.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/12/vitamin-k2-benefits.aspx
Yes, but not enough for your bones to benefit. Same with dairy intake would be have to consume way to many calories to achieve what you need. 2K units of D3 if you are sun sensitive. Fish oil if you can take, freeze caps, they will digest in intestine, not stomach.
“It’s not market demand when big Pharma is in bed with politicians. Don’t assume so much about others you come of as obnoxious and obscure the wisdom you have to offer.”
The First Amendment guarantees lobbying. Lobbying is a fundamental constitutional right for EVERYBODY, including the big bad evil Pharma.
This is a good site for chemo info. The 5FU is trade name: Adrucil aka/ 5-fluorouracil , 5-FU
http://chemocare.com/chemotherapy/drug-info/fluorouracil.aspx
I’ve had Cytarabine, daunarubacin, fludarabine, Busulfan, Methotrexate, and now an easy one in comparison - Nexavar.
This better be the last of it!!
Cornfedcowby is right. To go that route is basically giving up. While chemo may kill good cells with the bad cells, the good cells recover. It has saved my life and many, many others that I know. I try and take good care of my body, and I thank God for modern medicine.
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