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God and the London Attack
Townhall.com ^ | June 11, 2017 | Frank Turek

Posted on 06/11/2017 5:16:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

If you had the knowledge and power to stop the terrorist attack in London, would you have done so? Of course. In fact, if you could have stopped it but didn’t, we would call you morally deficient. We would partially blame you for the attacks!

What does this say about the supposedly all-loving, all-knowing, all powerful God? He didn’t stop it. Some say because He doesn’t exist.

When the attack hit, I was in London to speak at several churches on my book I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist. The morning after the attack I decided to change my topic to If God Exists, Why is there Evil in the World?

While I can’t present a complete answer to that question in this short column, the one thing the attacks cannot prove is that there is no God. In fact, if the attack was truly a grave injustice—if it was truly evil—then it shows that God actually does exist.

How so?

Because evil doesn’t exist on its own; it only exists as a lack or a deficiency in a good thing. Evil is like rust in a car: If you take all of the rust out of a car, you have a better car; if you take the car out of the rust, you have nothing. Evil is like a wound in your body: If you take the wound out of your body, you have a better body; if you take the body out of your wound, you have nothing. (That’s why we often describe evil as negations of good things. For example, we say the attack on London was immoral, unjust, inhumane, not right, etc.) In other words, there would be no such thing as evil unless good existed, but there would be no such thing as good unless God existed.

C.S. Lewis was once an atheist who thought all the injustice in the world disproved God. He later realized he was stealing a moral standard from God in order to argue against Him. He wrote in Mere Christianity, “[As an atheist] my argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?”

As an atheist, Lewis was comparing this unjust universe to God’s perfectly just nature while claiming that God didn’t exist. In effect, Lewis was sitting in God’s lap to slap his face.

While the Nazis were bombing London in WWII, the Christian Lewis was on the BBC saying things like, “The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard, saying that one of them conforms to that standard more nearly than the other. But the standard that measures two things is something different from either. You are, in fact, comparing them both with some Real Morality, admitting that there is such a thing as a real Right, independent of what people think, and that some people's ideas get nearer to that real Right than others. Or put it this way. If your moral ideas can be truer, and those of the Nazis less true, there must be something—some Real Morality—for them to be true about.”

Likewise, to rightfully condemn the London attacks there must be an unchanging standard of goodness, righteousness and justice that is beyond us and the terrorists. That standard is, by definition, the essence of the greatest possible Being, which is what we call “God.”

Without God there is no objective, authoritative, moral standard beyond humanity, which means human beings have no moral obligations and every action or behavior is merely a matter of human opinion. Do you think the London terrorist attack was wrong? Without God, that’s just your opinion against that of ISIS. The murder of six million Jews? It’s just your opinion against Hitler’s opinion. The sexual abuse of children? It’s only wrong if God exists.

If evil is real—as headlines from London plainly reveal—then God exists. The best evil can do is show there’s a devil out there, but it can’t disprove God. The very existence of evil boomerangs back to show that God exists.

But which God? The terrorists would claim that they were following the commands of Allah, particularly Suras 8 and 9 in the Qur’an. Ironically, Allah isn’t a viable candidate for the standard of Good because, according to Islamic doctrine, Allah is arbitrary. Whatever Allah does is good. By contrast, the God of the Bible is revealed as the unchanging ground of all Goodness. He isn’t arbitrary—He is Goodness.

If the God of the Bible actually exists, why would He allow evil to occur? There are several revealed and philosophical answers to that question which I cited in my presentation that Sunday at Kensington Temple in London (and more completely in my book Stealing from God: Why atheists need God to make their case.).

Regardless of the reasons, evil is a problem for every worldview including atheism. But Christianity is the only worldview equipped to handle it. In fact, the entire Christian story is an answer to the problem of evil. God Himself provides the ultimate solution—He takes evil on Himself. Jesus attaches humanity to His Divine Nature and allows the Creatures who introduced evil into the world to torture and kill Him so we could be reconciled to Him. He takes the punishment for our evil deeds and offers forgiveness as a gift.

Christ’s gift isn’t the subject of a fictional story—there’s very good evidence that the story is actually true. That means you have the real opportunity to accept that gift right now. When Jesus comes back to finally quarantine evil in a place called Hell, the time for choosing will be over. The Being whose essence is Justice has to accomplish final Justice at some point.



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1 posted on 06/11/2017 5:16:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Just replace the word God with the word “good”, same argument


2 posted on 06/11/2017 5:19:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have alwaPart of myys been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

Things changed on a cosmic level on 9-11. That was a joint in history. God and Satan have conversations in the Bible as in Job, and as in the Gospels when Jesus tells Peter Satan asked to sift him like wheat. I think Satan asked God to remove America’s shield at that time, and ever since we have crumbled.


3 posted on 06/11/2017 5:22:01 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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To: Kaslin

There is evil on the world because humans have self determination and control. When humans take charge, bad things happen.


4 posted on 06/11/2017 5:25:16 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: yldstrk

The point is without God there is no good.


5 posted on 06/11/2017 5:26:35 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin

He kinda dodged the question of why God allows evil. This question was taken head on by CS Lewis in “The Problem of Pain” though. I recomend it to those trying to reconcile Christian theology with the pain and suffering God allows in the world.


6 posted on 06/11/2017 5:28:19 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Uncle Sam 911

You could also say when humans take control good things happen.


7 posted on 06/11/2017 5:28:36 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Kaslin
In a world--any world--in which people have free will (i.e. they also have the right to choose evil), there will be evil.

For God to stop that would mean that we would no longer have free will and we would, essentially, be nothing more than robots.

Amazing that some folks can't figure that out.

He has shown us a way to get rid of evil in this world but it starts with getting rid of the evil inside of ourselves...and it is our choice that makes it so.

8 posted on 06/11/2017 5:29:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: yldstrk

No, it does not work like that. Good is an atribute not an agency.


9 posted on 06/11/2017 5:31:06 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

Here is the problem. That word “allows”. When examined closely, as Ravi Zacharias states, all the evil in this world comes from the heart of man. Not God. God does not “allow” it, mankind is hell bent on providing it.


10 posted on 06/11/2017 5:32:30 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: AndyTheBear

There is no final resolution to the problem of evil short of the Last Judgement. Our finite perspective is so limited we lack the vision to comment on it.

The book of Job makes this clear.


11 posted on 06/11/2017 5:37:33 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: RoosterRedux
For God to stop that would mean that we would no longer have free will and we would, essentially, be nothing more than robots.

In fact, there would be no point to human existence.

12 posted on 06/11/2017 5:38:54 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Gee it feels great to be a gangster.)
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To: wastoute
Allows means permits. One might ask why God does not interfere with us hurting each other...especially when someone is being greatly hurt unjustly. And there is suffering that people and animals must endure from the nature of this fallen world beyond what mankind causes.

There are good answers, but lets be realistic about the questions first.

13 posted on 06/11/2017 5:41:58 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Kaslin

Excellent post.

For decades, Leftists have tried to get around the objective standard of good as the essence of God. They say (but can they really believe?) that all cultures are equal, and to apply “goodness” to a linear scale is arbitrary.

This should be thrown in their faces anytime they attempt to impose their version of morality; it contradicts their belief in equality of all cultures.


14 posted on 06/11/2017 5:42:46 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Kaslin

Sorry, but evil is not JUST the absence of good. Evil is the deliberate choice of actions that are contrary to our human nature. The actions of the holocaust, and of m*slims in their terror attacks, are a deliberate choice to do evil.
Free will is a fact.


15 posted on 06/11/2017 5:49:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: AnalogReigns

Well yes, mortal understanding is finite. The beautifully written story of Job makes some profound theological points in a powerful elegant way to the heart of people suffering. Lewis’s book is more modest in scope, focusing on the issue as an intellectual problem of theology.


16 posted on 06/11/2017 6:04:03 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: I want the USA back

“... Evil is the deliberate choice of actions that are contrary to our human nature.”....

What more needs saying? Evil is EVIL!


17 posted on 06/11/2017 6:06:52 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The reality of evil in God's creation is far more complex than a quick answer would even begin to explain. One aspect of evil is the 'evolution' of the human being, and God's way of giving us choice. Yes, without the Righteous Nature of the Loving God, there would be no contrast. But that is merely a starting point for examining the issue.

And aspect seldom if ever addressed is the result if God were constantly addressing theeffects of evil deeds ...

It is understood in Psychology that when one is constantly pushing against something, that thing becomes a part of us, such that we have definition by and because we push against it.

If God were constantly dealing with the effects of evil, the source of evil would be, in effect, become a part of the Good, a means of defining Good. By evil's effect constantly being dealt with by God, the source of the evil would have become a large part of the reason for Good / God's existence.

The Bible tells us there is coming a point beyond which God will have sequestered evil' source for it to never surface again from that source, to manipulate humankind. If during the interim for that date God were constantly addressing the effects of evil, the source for evil would be motivating / manipulating GOD. THAT is not WHO God is. To be sure, an accounting is coming, but as the Universe now runs God is not being manipulated by the source of evil.

18 posted on 06/11/2017 6:14:44 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: brucedickinson

But would it surprise you that God is also giving the USA another chance by the election of Donald J. Trump as President last November?


19 posted on 06/11/2017 8:36:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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