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Commentary: Second Amendment: An American tragedy (Barf-o-rama)
orlandosentinel.com ^ | 6/5/2017 | Fred Decker

Posted on 06/06/2017 9:30:59 AM PDT by rktman

A year ago, Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives staged a sit-in demanding a vote on federal gun-safety bills following the shootings at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando. The National Rifle Association’s lobbying was largely blamed for no vote happening. But looking deeper, the Second Amendment with the unique American individualism wrapped around it underlies all. It is America’s fundamental gun problem.

As Michael Waldman at the Brennan Center for Justice suggests in Politico Magazine (2014), the NRA’s construing of the Second Amendment as an unconditional “right” to own and carry guns (a “right” beyond actual constitutional law in Supreme Court rulings) is why it thrives and has clout.

Without clout derived from Second Amendment hyperbole, we might not have, for instance, “stand your ground” laws in more than 20 states starting with Florida in 2005, laws that professors Cheng Cheng and Mark Hoekstra report in the Journal of Human Resources (2013) do not deter crime and are associated with more killing.

Pockets of America were waiting for the NRA’s Second Amendment fertilizer.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
The NRA's Second Amendment Fertilizer? That's rich there prof. I think you actually got you phd from dumbassistan U. But you are obviously sooooooo much more brilliant than us peons right?
1 posted on 06/06/2017 9:30:59 AM PDT by rktman
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Too bad the neighbor had a gun in this case.

http://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/06/neighbor-saves-infant-twins-murder-shooting-father-trying-drown/


2 posted on 06/06/2017 9:31:42 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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This issue alone is a reason to say: Best Election Ever.

Just think if the hilda-b*tch had won.


3 posted on 06/06/2017 9:34:55 AM PDT by samtheman (Trump++)
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To: rktman

Reading for meaning on SCOTUS decisions isn’t exactly the prof’s strong suit, is it??


4 posted on 06/06/2017 9:39:56 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: rktman

Shankin looks like a frightened idiot in her picture and the idiotic arguments in her article confirms the impression. People have a god-given right to protect themselves and when that right is denied they have became slaves without any real rights at all.


5 posted on 06/06/2017 9:41:10 AM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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They want us to be like our London counterparts and reduced to throwing chairs and bottles at attackers. You first!

When the immigrants start getting placed next to Hillary’s mansion or next to the palaces in Palo Alto, then come talk to me.


6 posted on 06/06/2017 9:41:58 AM PDT by Obadiah (Global warming caused Hillary to lose the election.)
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Leftwing newspapers like this one should be censored. Trump should appoint an overseer who will determine what can and cannot be published by these people. After all, the First Amendment is a “right” which has been extended far beyond the manually operated printing presses that our Founding Fathers intended to protect. The First Amendment is fertilizer.


7 posted on 06/06/2017 9:44:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: rktman
Without clout derived from Second Amendment hyperbole, we might not have, for instance, “stand your ground” laws in more than 20 states starting with Florida in 2005, laws that professors Cheng Cheng and Mark Hoekstra report in the Journal of Human Resources (2013) do not deter crime and are associated with more killing.

There have been VERY few "stand your ground" cases in which killing the thug was a bad thing. Some people just need killing. I am far more pro-gun than the NRA. I would have no gun background checks on anyone for any reason. I would restore gun rights to those who are released from prison immediately. If someone is not safe with a gun, they should not have been released.

8 posted on 06/06/2017 9:44:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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If the government gets all its authority from the citizens, and the citizens don’t have the right to keep and bear arms, where would the government get authority to keep and bear arms?

(Yes, including machine guns, missiles, tanks, and submarines). If not, where would the government get the authority for them?


9 posted on 06/06/2017 9:49:52 AM PDT by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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Second Amendment: An American tragedy

Actually, it is Fred Decker who is an 'American tragedy'.

How do we end up with foolish 'professors' who lack the critical thinking skills and knowledge of history that any fifth grader should possess?

Fred Decker is a sociologist in Bowie, Md., with a background in health and social policy research. He earned his doctorate from Florida State University.

No - Fred Decker is a freedom-hating progressive idiot with a warped understanding of the world around him. He may be "educated" but he certainly lacks "smarts".

10 posted on 06/06/2017 9:54:36 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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P> Project Veritas did a great job exposing a bunch of anti-gun people by asking them to put the above sign in front of their house. Not one person wanted to put the sign up. I'd like to see them to ask these people.
11 posted on 06/06/2017 9:55:38 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: T-Bird45

Once again, proof positive that “receiving” a PhD does not necessarily convey any actual knowledge or comprehension skills. Has he paid his student loans off yet. I’d ask for a refund.


12 posted on 06/06/2017 9:57:29 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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The 2nd Amendment will come in handy with the Democrats setting criminals loose and importing terrorists. They don’t like it, but this will be one of the more important rights in these coming years more than ever.


13 posted on 06/06/2017 10:19:32 AM PDT by VermithraxPejorative
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...(a “right” beyond actual constitutional law in Supreme Court rulings)...

Back that up, Decker, 'cause I got this: http://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/gun_control_dencite.htm

14 posted on 06/06/2017 10:32:57 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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clickable:

http://www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/gun_control_dencite.htm


15 posted on 06/06/2017 10:37:36 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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