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1 posted on 06/06/2017 4:34:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Jonah is the enemy.

Jonah is faux American


2 posted on 06/06/2017 4:38:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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Trump may not be perfect but at least he discerns reality. He is most bitterly opposed by the politically correct delusional Left. They will not or cannot admit that at the core of jihadist terrorism is Islam. The 9/11 terrorists, the barbaric jihadists and over three thousand documented suicide bombers were all motivated by Islam and went to their deaths and murdered believing they would be rewarded with some sort of pleasant afterlife. The Left thinks they can use these lunatics to destroy Western culture and capitalism. The West faces an existential crisis. It is under assault from the bizarre within and alien barbarians. Throughout history the generals and leaders who won the critical battles had flaws and personalities that may have been even repulsive. But in the final analysis they were remembered for their accomplishments. The Left must be defeated for the West to survive. Trump now commands and despite his flaws must have the support of decent people.


5 posted on 06/06/2017 4:46:36 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.” Ronald Reagan


6 posted on 06/06/2017 4:49:10 AM PDT by McBuff
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Very well done, Mr. Prager.

A cultural revolution

7 posted on 06/06/2017 4:49:32 AM PDT by arthurus
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I like Dennis Prager but you’d never know from reading this he’s had 3 or 4 wives. How Trumpian!

These guys just can’t believe a man who talks like a truck driver and kind of looks like one too, is president. It offends their delicate sensibilities even though neither of them is a Rose of Sharon. Personally, I don’t think Jonah looks like he bathes much.

And we are in a Civil War and it is violent as well. Do any of these guys watch Tucker?


10 posted on 06/06/2017 5:00:44 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Most conservative republicans who oppose Trump are not conservative at all. Naming a few will prove the point, Jeb Bush, McCain, Myth Romney, George Bush, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnel, Glen Beck, I think it proves the point


11 posted on 06/06/2017 5:02:54 AM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wkikileaks, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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These people have been exposed as elite by President Trump.We owe President Trump a debt of gratitude for that and much more.


13 posted on 06/06/2017 5:05:05 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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I'm surprised Dennis Prager presented this whole discussion in the context of a "cultural" civil war.

That's certainly part of the problem here, but in a political context that wasn't really the defining difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election. The real basis of their distinction was one of nationalism vs. globalism.

You didn't see Trump make a big deal about social/cultural issues during the election, probably because he could only win the election with support among large numbers of Americans who have already surrendered most of the cultural war already.

15 posted on 06/06/2017 5:05:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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Goldberg is a coward. It is easier to bash Trump politically than support him.


16 posted on 06/06/2017 5:09:34 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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I thought his first column was offensive because it excused the stupidity, and moral vapidity of the nevertrumpers. It was written with the same naivete as the moderate wing of the GOP.

This one is better, although he still kind of excuses them.

At this point, there is no excuse for their obtuse stupidity, and they need to be told that with no prevarication.

17 posted on 06/06/2017 5:12:20 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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Jonah is only one of many NR "Never-Trump" writers - but oddly enough they never seem to respond (or respond well) to the NR contributors with a more sober view of Trump, like Conrad Black or VDH.

Trump surely isn't Reagan, but he's no John Kerry either.
He's pro-RKBA and pro-life - those two alone should enable them to dispense a little grace, but he's also put together an exemplary cabinet.
He still ticks me off from time to time, but he's far, far better than what we could have had.

In the immortal words of Sgt Hulka: "Lighten up, Francis"

18 posted on 06/06/2017 5:12:53 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Dennis why bother answering a piss ant like Goldberg? He is really of no consequence in the everyday lives of real Americans.


19 posted on 06/06/2017 5:13:46 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Indeed, Jonah Goldberg in National Review said as much. He denied that we are in the midst of a civil war on two grounds: One is that it is not violent, and the other is that we are fighting a “culture war,” not a civil war.


This statement from Jonah Goldberg shows how ignorant of history he is. The 1st U.S. Civil War didn’t begin as a hot war. It simmered for decades as a political confrontation and power struggle within the Federal and State governments.


21 posted on 06/06/2017 5:20:23 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("Daddy, what did you do in the Deep State War?")
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You can be critical of the President...and still not be a never trumper. Just ask kellyanne Conway’s husband...who has set off a firestorm that will likely have repercussions for his wife.

Btw..he is right in what he said...


22 posted on 06/06/2017 5:22:12 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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But, but, but . . . Mr. Prager, you lost your target. It’s a war and you made it a personal defense.


24 posted on 06/06/2017 5:24:58 AM PDT by aspasia
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BTTT


30 posted on 06/06/2017 5:34:38 AM PDT by Chgogal (I will NOT submit, therefore, Jihadists hate me.)
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The fact is they are not “Conservatives” they are Bushies.

Goldwater-Regan were American Nationalists. The Bush family dominance of the GOP for the last 30 years corrupted the GOP with the disease of Globalism. Trump is a turn back towards the Reagan-Goldwater Conservatism and a rejection of the Bush family’s Globalist viewpoint.

Those claiming to be “Movement Conservatives” aren’t really Conservatives, they are merely Bushites.


33 posted on 06/06/2017 5:37:45 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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And many repeated the universal belief among Never-Trumpers that a Hillary Clinton victory would not have been a catastrophe . . . If the left wins, America loses. And if America loses, evil will engulf the world.

A Hillary victory would be a global catastrophe. I imagine the cost would be as high as or higher than when Europe entered the Dark Ages - literally a thousand years of deterioration, cultural and intellectual retreat, decay, disease, and never-ending war on a Biblical scale.

My prayer (which I am not optimistic will be granted) is that President Trump will change the political landscape so much that the West will be able to withstand the next globalist totalitarian liberal to take power. That's a high bar to clear. Even though Trump is the best choice for the job, I still have very little confidence that he can do it. I expect our future to be indescribably ugly unless President Trump can pull off a miracle.

35 posted on 06/06/2017 5:41:15 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Yeay Dennis. I have been harsh on him at the beginning of the campaign. Unlike almost all others talkers he came around to the idea of Trump as president pretty early if I recall correctly


40 posted on 06/06/2017 5:49:59 AM PDT by datricker (Build the wall. If you build it, they won't come - Field of Dreamers)
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Dennis Prager indirectly mentioned something that I have said for years. Americans distinguish “ethics” and “morality” as two different things. Here’s the background to this argument.

At the time of the American Revolution, Europe was just emerging from the belief that Kings ruled nations because they were “anointed by Heaven”. And this gave them a “moral” authority that they didn’t have. That is, if you disobeyed the crown, you not only broke the king’s law, but your act was an “affront to heaven”. You were “offending God.”

The founding fathers were extremely contemptuous of this thinking, and didn’t want it in the United States at all.

So they were very clear about “WE, the People of the United States...” And though most of them were quite religious and believed in God, they wanted to be crystal clear that “Heaven DID NOT write our constitution.” People did. And what people write can be changed by other people.

Without offending Heaven.

This is the *real* “separation of church and state”. That while politicians of faith are usually respected, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE IMPRIMATUR OF HEAVEN. Any law they write, no matter how similar to the laws of their faith, is *still* a law written by people, not Heaven.

And this is where the public view of “ethics” and “morality” come into play.

The typical American defined ethics as obeying the law. If you are a moral person on top of that, usually that is just fine. The public believes it can objectively and clearly tell if a politician is ethical.

However, morality is confusing. The morality of a righteous person is obeying the laws of their faith, and their church or other place of worship. And it is seen as being totally *subjective*.

Bill Clinton would be the first politician to claim that he is a “moral” person. Because, to paraphrase him, “It depends on what your definition of morality is.”

Nancy Pelosi regularly spouts that she is “moral”, even though she rejects every important part of her alleged faith of Catholicism, and embraces many things morally repugnant to Catholicism.

So Dennis Prager was very correct that it DOES NOT matter what a politician thinks or even says in private. What matters is what he *does* in public.

We, as Americans can support him, if he is ethical. That his actions reflect what we believe in, and conform to the law.

If he often proclaims his morality, we need to mistrust him, because we have no idea what he means by that. And that he mentions it, instead of his ethics, raises yet another question.


47 posted on 06/06/2017 6:34:46 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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