Posted on 05/27/2017 4:47:41 AM PDT by Kaslin
In the aftermath of the horrific suicide bombing, the mayor of Greater Manchester, Andy Burnham, wanted to make one thing perfectly clear. The man who blew himself was a terrorist, not a Muslim. To quote him directly, The message that I would want to get over and this is how the vast majority of people feel this man was a terrorist, not a Muslim.
Mr. Burnham, with all respect to the pain your community is experiencing, and with full recognition of your desire to unite your people, you are terribly wrong. Dead wrong. The suicide bomber was a terrorist because of his Muslim faith. Until you acknowledge that and until the people of your community acknowledge that, you will not be able to combat the terror.
I imagine that most of the Muslims in Manchester are aghast at this atrocity. And I imagine most of them look at this as a perversion of their faith.
But many others do not. For them, this is what Islam does. It fights the unbelievers wherever it finds them, especially at a worldly concert attended by young people. Infidels!
I understand, Mr. Burnham, that your point was that Salman Abedi was not a true Muslim, since true Muslims do not commit such acts.
In that case, neither Osama bin Laden nor any members of Al-Qaeda were (or are) true Muslims.
And neither Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the founder of ISIS, who holds a Ph.D. in Quranic Studies from Iraq's Saddam University for Islamic Studies, nor any members of ISIS are true Muslims.
And no member of the Taliban or Hamas (which stands for the Islamic Resistance Movement) or Hezbollah (The Party of Allah) or the Muslim Brotherhood are true Muslims.
And its just a coincidence that during the month of Ramadan, Islamic terrorist attacks increase dramatically around the world. (The bloodshed has already begun, with more than 25 Coptic Christians, including children, slaughtered on the first day of Ramadan.)
And its just a coincidence that Abedi allegedly memorized the Quran as a boy and would chant his Islamic prayers loudly in the street.
And its just a coincidence that numerous texts in the Quran are interpreted by millions of Muslims as justification for terrorist attacks.
And its just a coincidence that these same texts have been used by Muslims for centuries as a theological basis for acts of violence.
And its just a coincidence that suicide bombings between rival Muslim groups take place on a regular basis in mosques and in markets and at funerals.
And its just a coincidence that the terrorists responsible for 9-11 and Fort Hood and the Boston Marathon bombing and San Bernardino and Orlando and Nice, France and Brussels, Belgium, and London, England, and Madrid, Spain, and Beslan, Russia (the list is almost endless) were all Muslims.
Focusing on England, its just a coincidence that BBC reports that, Approximately 850 people from the UK have travelled to support or fight for jihadist organisations in Syria and Iraq, say the British authorities. Need I say that all 850 were Muslims?
And Mr. Mayor, you must be aware that, Manchester has long been a hotbed of Islamic extremism, with dozens or more Muslim-born radicals and converts known to have gone to fight for Islamic State and, security officials fear, in some cases secretly returned to continue their jihad in Britain.
Is this just a coincidence?
Here in America, I guess it was just a coincidence that Nidal Malik Hasan, the 2009 Fort Hood shooter, calls himself a Soldier of Allah and was radicalized by the Islamic cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, (We killed al-Awlaki via drone attack in Yemen in 2011).
And it was just a coincidence that he shouted out Allahu Akbar as he wounded or killed more than 40 unarmed, American military personnel.
And it was just a coincidence that he previously turned a medical lecture into a radical Islamic screed, during which he allegedly justified suicide bombings, reportedly stating that if you didnt believe in the Koran, you are condemned to hell. Your head is cut off. You're set on fire. Burning oil is burned down your throat.
Pitifully, our government classified this 2009 Islamic terrorist attack as workplace violence. And pitifully, many leaders in England want to disassociate the Manchester bombing from Islam.
This is willful ignorance of the highest order. And it is willful ignorance that is deadly.
In contrast, Egypts President el-Sisi, himself a devout Muslim, delivered a courageous speech at Cairos prestigious Al-Azhar University in 2015, stating, We need to revolutionize our religion." He called for "religious discourse that is in keeping with its times," warning that "the Islamic nation is being torn apart and destroyed" by extremism.
In Poland, Prime Minister Beata Szydlo had some very strong words to say in response to the Manchester bombing. Where are you headed Europe? she asked. Rise from your knees and from your lethargy or you will be crying over your children every day.
She continued: If you cant see this if you cant see that terrorism currently has the potential to hurt every country in Europe, and you think that Poland should not defend itself, you are going hand in hand with those who point this weapon against Europe, against all of us.
What? Nohhhh....
Who leaked that?
At some point, we are going to have to agree that words and phrases have meaning and what tbe terns are of such.
The message that I would want to get over and this is how the vast majority of people feel this man was a terrorist, not a Muslim.
Uhmmmm, no he wasn’t a terrorist under your definition.
He was a mss murderer.
A terrorist kills in the name of an idea, seeking to influence political, cultural change through their actions and usualky act on behalf of a group they affiliate with or have sympathy for.
Killing in the name of Islam and being in league with a worldwide movement seeking religious, cultural, legal government domination makes him a terrorist.
Moreover, his affiliation with Islamic terrorists seeking the same ends makes him an Islamic terrorist.
Sorry Mr. Mayor, I have to disagree with you......First of all the A-hole was an "animal", not a man. Second, Muslim and Terrorist seem to be synonymous these days.
Has islam ever spread other than by submission or by the sword?
I don’t think so.
Well terrorists that blow themselves up in the middle of innocents are mass murderers. It gets me when the media refers to them as suicide bombers, instead of homicide bombers.
This irrational and delusional political correctness characterizes the actual belief and thinking of Western Europe’s girly leaders. This demented barbaric murderer went to his death believing the perverse Wahhabi teaching of Islam that he would be rewarded in some sort of pleasant afterlife for killing non believing infidels. This demented mayor of Manchester is unwilling or incapable of seeing the truth. Sadly this thinking pervades the EU. It is why many core American conservatives have concluded that long term intertwinements with the EU such as NATO, the “Paris accords” and other mechanisms of globalism are not in the best interests of the American people. The onetime consensus is the US that underscored an American commitment to Europe is eroding. If conservatives in the US come to see it as an expensive debilitating exercise, Trump or no Trump, US will ultimately distance itself from a Europe that has transformed.
The mayor is just trying to make the folks feel better about the millions of m*zzies who are now on British soil murdering innocents.
. And I imagine most of them look at this as a perversion of their faith.”
I love it whends clueless people write articles about the cluelessness of others.
IF Muslims were aghast at radical violence there would be a meaningful manifestation of it. There ain’t. ..
The people have voted with flowers. The people would rather die and apathetically throw flowers than fight.
All that was won in two world wars is now lost.
The people are doomed.
Denial is deadly when dealing with Islam.
The jihad has been going on for 1395 years.
It must continue until there are only muslims or no muslims according to their “holy” books.
If we do not confront the truth about Islam and eradicate it like Nazism, we have two choices , submit or die.
Mad Mo made it so.
“...the mayor of Greater Manchester, Andy Burnham”
I assume that Mr. Burnham is not a Muslim.
One of the anti-Jihad leaders (maybe Robert Spencer) pointed out that non-Muslims are really in no position to say who is a Muslim and who is not. Listen to the Muslims, such as ISIS, and you get your answer here.
Post of the year, so far...
First, this man was a man, a human person.
Second, this person was a terrorist.
Third, this person was a Muslim.
The reality is that not all Muslims are terrorist even when it appears that all terrorist are Muslim.
If the belief that all Muslims are terrorist prevails then the world body must prepare to wage war on 1.5 billion people because they are trying to kill us.
There are lies, and there are damned lies.... Put this one in the appropriate file...
Maybe it is time to rename the “no true Scotsman” logical fallacy to the “no true muslim” fallacy.
Would there be Muslim terrorism in Europe today if Nazis and Hitler had won? Why didn’t they win? What will it take to defeat this rabid movement? Would you consult Chamberlain or Churchill? By the way, if the culture didn’t turn its back on the one, true God, there wouldn’t be these victories for the false gods.
Every muslim believes in murdering innocent people. Some muslims act on their beliefs, and some do not. Simple as that.
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