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IBM Says No to Home Work
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Posted on 05/21/2017 1:57:15 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: CodeToad

>The individual might think they get more done at home but no one else does.

It depend on the Individual. Your words speak for you, an individual, and nobody else.


21 posted on 05/21/2017 2:22:57 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

hmm seems like an big increase in office infrastructure costs... could be a way to get lots of people to quit without having a layoff I guess.


22 posted on 05/21/2017 2:27:43 PM PDT by orionrising
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To: dhs12345

25 years


23 posted on 05/21/2017 2:30:52 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: RoosterRedux

I loved remote work. I remember the first time I worked at home I brought 3 days of work home with me and was done by noon. It was surprising how much work I could accomplish at home.

That being said, I also know several who would abuse the system. You could always tell by how quickly they would respond to email.

I suspect too much abuse.


24 posted on 05/21/2017 2:31:17 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: RoosterRedux

Most INM offices are away from the big cities. They are in the burbs


25 posted on 05/21/2017 2:34:20 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: HarleyD

” I brought 3 days of work home with me and was done by noon. It was surprising how much work I could accomplish at home.”

Me too. Surprised me. It exposed how much office banter was worthless time suckers.


26 posted on 05/21/2017 2:35:04 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Snickering Hound

And in California a 5150 is your psych commitment


27 posted on 05/21/2017 2:35:50 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: RoosterRedux
IBM markets software and services for what it calls "the anytime, anywhere workforce,"

Will the "anytime" end at 5 PM, or will employees still be tethered to their phones for 24 hours a day?

28 posted on 05/21/2017 2:37:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity - Pres. Eisenhower)
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To: CodeToad

And yet I’ve done it for 15 yrs and received several promotions. We have no local office, it allows for a geographically diverse talent pool. I’m not saying it doesn’t have negatives, for me it’s mainly never being AWAY from work...it’s always there and I do more hours than most. These days I travel a fair bit, so what benefit is it to have an office I must travel to year round? Here in Michigan that also introduces travel risk in the winter, I’m glad I don’t deal with it.


29 posted on 05/21/2017 2:37:52 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: RoosterRedux

Having spent my entire career in health care,an industry not well suited to “home work” (at least not my positions),I don’t know much about this general subject.However,while I can see a large company like IBM wanting staff to be in the office at least occasionally (meetings,seminars,training) doing away with “home work” completely doesn’t seem to make sense.


30 posted on 05/21/2017 2:47:11 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: soycd

“It depend on the Individual. Your words speak for you, an individual, and nobody else.”

No, my words speak for MANY people who are fed up with lazy employees that think only of themselves and their work from home. I’ve worked many years at home, and some of it very productive, but 100% days at home are detrimental to the overall project team. Some time needs to be spent face to face.


31 posted on 05/21/2017 2:52:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Ah... collaboration — the latest buzz phrase with the floor space nerds in technical companies. Move them back into a regional office where they can all get on separate conference calls and visit with their co-workers around the coffee pot a few times a day. :-). But don’t give them offices — that is too confined. Put them out on the floor jammed together so the “collaboration” of voices on separate conference calls sound like a third rate call center. I’m sure there is a Dilbert cartoon for this fad.


32 posted on 05/21/2017 2:54:23 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: CodeToad

>my words speak for MANY people who are fed up with lazy employees

All good but that was not the point made or responded to.

I’m sure many milk it, but there are always exceptions.


33 posted on 05/21/2017 2:58:23 PM PDT by soycd
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To: dhs12345; ImJustAnotherOkie

Most utility patents are good for 20 years. Design patents are 14 or 15 years depending on when issued.

Sometimes the expiration date is extended due to delays in the patent office.


34 posted on 05/21/2017 3:00:07 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: RoosterRedux

IMHO, IBM did not make this decision in a vacuum, but established metrics that defined the productivity of these home workers, as less than desirable.


35 posted on 05/21/2017 3:02:57 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I wonder if there is an information security issue at work. Keep all the data inside the firewall instead of on thousands of computers scattered around the country.


36 posted on 05/21/2017 3:04:19 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SgtHooper

Or IBM needs to have layoffs and instead of offering severance packages tells telecommuters to now commute all the way to a regional office

Now they don't have to offer severance. Mo money, mo money, mo money

37 posted on 05/21/2017 3:06:44 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: PAR35
information security issue at work...

No, the use of private VPNs make it very secure. Need to have a decent ISP though, especially for your VOIP conference calls.

With the advent of telecommuting, many employees have "grown into" their jobs and locations so that if the spigot is turned off, as is happening at IBM, HP, Honeywell, etc... they will find themselves needing to do a long commute to an office where there are none of their co-workers. So, the theoretical advantage of face-to-face team work is lost, because the actual coworkers are in another city or country.

I know one person in this situation that does con-calls most of the time to the detriment of the native workers in his cubical neighborhood. Imagine you are a quiet in-office type, and some foreigner employee is given an office next to you constantly and loudly on the phone.

38 posted on 05/21/2017 3:24:42 PM PDT by C210N
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To: SgtHooper

>IMHO, IBM did not make this decision in a vacuum, but established metrics that defined the productivity of these home workers, as less than desirable.

I tend to think same. I also suspect they will exceptions for the exceptional few. Exceptional case do exist. Obviously.


39 posted on 05/21/2017 3:34:58 PM PDT by soycd
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To: RoosterRedux

As a full time virtual employee, this is a stupid move. I get MUCH more done working at home than I ever did in an office. Not even close.


40 posted on 05/21/2017 3:35:06 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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