Posted on 04/13/2017 8:47:03 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
Chinese leader Xi Jinping's two-day summit meeting with Donald Trump, overshadowed by the U.S. attack on Syria, gave each president the chance to take the measure of the other and, apparently, each liked what he saw. From the Chinese perspective, things went very well indeed, with China taking the initiative and the Americans going along.
It wasn't supposed to be like that. Trump had plans to pressure Xi to reduce the U.S. trade deficit. Trump also expected Xi to "step up" and help rein in North Korea. Neither thing happened.
From the beginning, China felt it had the situation under control. Rex Tillerson had shown willingness to placate China by adopting its vocabulary "no conflict, no confrontation, mutual respect and win-win cooperation" to describe the relationship.
A major commentary published in the People's Daily April 1, was headlined "Xi Jinping's big diplomatic move draws global attention."
It discussed Xi's state visit to Finland, followed by his tete-a-tete in Palm Springs with Donald Trump. This, the official party paper indicated, was Xi's initiative.
Indeed, the Mar-a-Lago meeting was a big diplomatic move by Xi. After months in which Trump, first as candidate, then as president-elect, and finally as president, castigated China for "raping" the U.S., for "stealing" American jobs and then announcing that he might depart from the "One China" policy adopted by the U.S. since the 1970s, China decided that it had to rein him in.
Beijing's first notable success was when Trump promised Xi over the phone that he would abide by the "One China" policy after all.... (Exerpt)
Also reports of 25,000 more so 175,000 troops.
People who think China us going to take out Kim are clueless.
And I will say this, if there really is some sort of arrangement between China and the US to remove Kim, that would be the hugest thing to happen in decades and would put Xi Jinping’s rise and ultimate motives in a completely new, and hard to understand, light.
Well ..... China IS a player in the game so I suspect they will do as much leveraging to get what they want as Trump uses ....N.Korea is their Joker Card...they can use it to make their hand or save it for another round. But Trump does know this that’s why he said either with or not China he’s going to fix the problem....and as I understand it China’s people have told Fat Boy Trumps not kidding.
Thanks for confirming this is fake news.
From one of your links
“Was there any substance to the rumor? Not according to senior U.S. military and intelligence officials. There was no “massing.” As many as 250,000 Chinese troops are always operating in northeastern China, and the U.S. did not see any sign Beijing had moved them closer to the Yalu River, which separates North Korea from China.”
Yes, indeed! And I expect something of that nature to be the probable case. I would not venture to guess just how it will play out but there will probably be some big changes in relationships and statuses (stati?).
According to one of my links you are a Ginger Cluzlim.
Has the same weight as according to one of my links.
You give Trump too little credit. Think of events in one dimension. Think spider web. What happens when you tug this thread? Most people can visualize it. Now think 2D, then 3D then 4D. Think of a 3D spider web with the variable of time, ie 4D. If I tug here what happens over time. I think at the 3D level. A very few media pundits do too. 3D thinkers are not worthy of carrying the briefcase of the person that adds the time dimension. I look back and see what he did and it astonishes me that he saw what was going to happen. He does it over and over again.
Good post as always.
Bait taken.
Bait taken.
This thread doesn’t even look like English :)
But its pretty sure that Washington hasnt prepared itself for the worst-case scenario.
In actuality, the situation has been out of control for at least 25-30 years because of major strategic misjudgments.
Furthermore, this has already caused the worst-case scenario, a belligerent nuclear / missile / sub capable North Korea. It never needed to get to this state of affairs.
The threat is now at a point for the region and the US that North Korea's threats cannot be ignored as baseless rhetoric. Doing so would be the grossest kind of strategic misjudgment if Kim follows through on any of his threats unilaterally. It is obvious that if left alone, something very bad is going to happen.
He is a a realist who learns and adapts at a rate that most have trouble comprehending.
Some may love Chinese money too much, and others are part of typical east coast elites. Some of them can be efficient managers or trusted intermediaries. But they should not be allowed to make decisions on policy direction. Many of them are too much in love with finesse (euphemism for expedience) for their own good.
When the time is right he will use Russia to scare China.
Read your Machiavelli or Sun Tzu and take notes.
I have trouble comprehending why DACA is still in place and he accepted Ryan's version of fake repeal of ObamaCare.
“... and he accepted Ryan’s version of fake repeal of ObamaCare.”
Is it possible Trump has been waiting for Gorsuch to be confirmed?
Also, are there any elections between now and 2018 that could swing the balance of power ever so slightly to Trumps favor?
Yeah, it was a wash. See what comes of it in 100 days.
What I thought interesting was the Carl Vinson carrier group steaming through the South Sea to Korea. Kind of thing China was supposed to make a peep about, I think.
He could also lose the House and Senate, especially if they continue to block the wall and pass this cr@p sandwich health bill.
Because he's an adaptable realist. The Bill by Ryan was flawed, but it pointed us in the right direction and had the best chance of broad enough support to pass - take more crap out and the "moderates' drop out - put more in and the "principled conservatives" (all or nothing types) stand even firmer against it.
Reality is that no Dims will ever support repeal and the Repubs are so broad-spectrum/"compassionate conservative" it will take a balancing act fit for Ed Sullivan to get enough support.
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