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Are tolls on former Elgin-O'Hare shifting traffic elsewhere?
The Chicago Daily Herald ^ | March 13, 2017 | Marni Pyke

Posted on 04/10/2017 11:02:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Since tolls descended on Route 390, there has been an exodus of cars and trucks from the former Elgin-O'Hare Expressway.

Vehicles decreased between 38 percent and 28 percent on sections of Route 390 between Lake Street and I-290, according to Illinois tollway data comparing usage before construction and in February.

Where are those thousands of commuters and truckers going? Boycotting 20-cent a mile tolls on Route 390 and spilling off onto local roads in communities like Roselle, some residents say.

Commuter Brian McGehee was running late Friday at 7 a.m., "so, I bit the bullet," he said referring to Route 390. "The (toll) road was very open and un-congested."

But en route to the toll road, Central Avenue in Roselle -- an east-west alternative to Route 390 -- "was a nightmare," crowded with semitrailers, box trucks and large delivery vans, McGehee said.

Tollway officials said they anticipated a drop-off in Route 390 traffic, and it's actually better than projected.

"Fewer people than we anticipated chose to try alternate roads, indicating that our customers recognize the value of the convenience and faster travel times provided by the new Route 390," spokesman Dan Rozek said.

"We are pleased to see that usage is greater than we initially anticipated."

In 2012, before any construction began, daily traffic counts on Route 390 averaged about 42,000 vehicles at Lake Street, about 71,000 vehicles at Mitchell Boulevard and about 78,450 vehicles at Plum Grove Road, Rozek said.

Tolling began July 5 and from that date through October, daily traffic counts on Route 390 averaged 30,450 vehicles at Lake Street, 56,650 at Mitchell Boulevard and 59,450 at Plum Grove.

In February, the daily averages came to 26,200 vehicles at Lake Street, 51,300 at Mitchell Boulevard and 54,000 at Plum Grove.

The new numbers show a 4 to 8 percent decline during February compared to averages recorded since the new toll road opened.

"The traffic reductions recorded in February on Route 390 are similar to the declines typically seen across our system during the winter months," Rozek said.

Roselle hasn't conducted any scientific studies of post-toll traffic, officials said.

Last summer, "we did feel there was an increase to local traffic on Central Avenue as drivers may have avoided I-390 by accessing Central Avenue off Gary Avenue, Rodenburg Road, and Roselle Road," Village Manager Jeffrey D. O'Dell said.

Roselle Mayor Gayle Smolinski also notices more trucks, particularly on Central Avenue.

"When there is change there's always discombobulation," she said.

"We hope at some point the truckers will realize it takes them longer on Central and go back to using the toll road."

With road repairs on Central coming, there's a built-in incentive, Smolinski added.

This year, workers will finish building Route 390 between I-290 and Route 83, with more tolls to kick in by the end of 2017.

What that means for traffic in other suburbs along Route 390 is anyone's guess.

One thing's certain. Roselle's Marsha Pedersen won't be hopping on the new road soon.

"I used to travel from Roselle Road to Lake Street many times a week (on the Elgin-O'Hare Expressway). Now it would cost me 60 cents each way. That's a hefty price for a few minutes' drive," she said.

One more thing

As we reported in November, revenues are pouring in from Route 390 at a higher rate than officials expected. Transactions at toll plazas exceeded $2.3 million in January.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: construction; diversion; elginohareexpressway; illinois; infrastructure; roselle; route390; tolls; traffic; transportation; truckers; trucks
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1 posted on 04/10/2017 11:02:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Don’t drive across Ill. with gunz.....


2 posted on 04/10/2017 11:06:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hell, it costs me 17 cents a mile for every mile I drive in Oregon with my semi. Combined with the damn 55 speed limit on the west side, it is not worth driving there. I completely understand avoiding the toll road unless you can pass it on to your customers.


3 posted on 04/10/2017 11:09:29 PM PDT by datura
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Government-run toll roads. What a lovely concept. Never, ever let things revert to the private sector; can’t let them look successful by contrast.

I remember when the Lincoln Tunnel between Weehawken NJ and Manhattan was just $3 for cars, back in the early 1980s. Nowadays it’s $15 for cars, i.e. if paying cash (E-ZPass toll is $12.50 peak and $10.50 off-peak); that is way more than the $7.34 in 2017 dollars that $3 in 1983 dollars is supposed to be.


4 posted on 04/10/2017 11:12:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Paladin2

Why do you say that?


5 posted on 04/10/2017 11:14:38 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

20 cents a mile?

Toll roads like, be so racist!


6 posted on 04/11/2017 12:02:46 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Freedom56v2

All firearms are outlawed in Chicago.


7 posted on 04/11/2017 12:05:24 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: exnavy

All firearms are outlawed in Chicago.


1. Poster said no guns in IL - Chicago is not IL. IN IL can CC and can transport if field strip, or locked and ammo stored separately locked.

2. You can CC in Chicago.


8 posted on 04/11/2017 12:56:47 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: Paladin2

If you stay on the interstate and use gas stations (if necessary) or food (if necessary) you will be okay transporting.


9 posted on 04/11/2017 1:29:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just shoot the trolls like deer and get them out of the way.

2 troll maximum per hunter :)


10 posted on 04/11/2017 1:35:03 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Used to be called the Elgin-Ohare expressway until they realized it didn’t go to Elgin, or Ohare and it wasn’t really an expressway.


11 posted on 04/11/2017 4:21:54 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I learned to hate Illinois toll roads starting in 1966 while driving from my college in Minnesota, to my co-op job in Michigan. At times I would wait 20 minutes, in multiple places, just to drop 40 cents into a basket. I would also ask (union) booth employees at the plaza booths for change for a $10 so I could avoid the (union) staffed booths. Even though they were standing next to lines where they were collecting change by the bucket full, they would reply "I don't have that much change." I avoided the toll roads with a passion, to the point of taking the Dan Ryan through downtown at rush hour just to avoid the toll roads.

However, a few years back, Illinois went to non-stop toll roads using a transponder. The transponder price is half the toll price. I love it, and now use the toll roads whenever possible. I still don't buy gas in Illinois, though. They can get me on their toll roads, but they can't force me to pay their gasoline taxes.

12 posted on 04/11/2017 5:06:07 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Economics is the wise use of scarce resources when their is another use for them.

Obviously 60,000 people a day have decided that $.20 a mile is too expensive for their scarce resources and they will utilize another way.

What a surprise to the government central planners who predicted a rush of automotive lemmings.


13 posted on 04/11/2017 5:29:16 AM PDT by cyclotic
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My brother was driving in the car behind me. We pulled up to a toll bridge in New York. I handed the lady double toll and told her to use it for the car behind me.

The union troll refused several times to do that.

Amazing.


14 posted on 04/11/2017 5:33:04 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: exnavy

“All firearms are outlawed in Chicago.”

Wrong. I carry ever time I go to the city.

L


15 posted on 04/11/2017 5:36:23 AM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In Illinois tolls are DOUBLE if you pay cash. It’s a real disincentive for out-of-staters using toll roads there.


16 posted on 04/11/2017 6:11:46 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Freedom56v2

For us non-residents, no firearms are allowed. I do not live there, visit there, etc. You can have it and the nonsense crime that goes with.


17 posted on 04/11/2017 6:11:59 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: Lurker

I am quite certian, that for us non-residents, verboten.


18 posted on 04/11/2017 6:13:00 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: exnavy

It depends on what state you’re from. We have reciprocity with many.

Do some research.

L


19 posted on 04/11/2017 6:50:34 AM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: Lurker

I have lived in southwest michigan many years, the rule of thumb here, do not get caught in ill. or chicago with firearms, that has been true since the 60’s. not reasearch, common sense.


20 posted on 04/11/2017 7:00:11 AM PDT by exnavy
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