When you embarrass the boss publicly and contribute to his defeat in his first major initiative, there is a price to pay. This could have been avoided if the FC had gone behind closed doors and worked out a deal privately. No one should have been allowed to leave the room until a consensus was reached.
Ryan never should have drafted the stupid bill without the FC on board. He comes out of this looking like a moron.
Absolutely right.
Donald Trump is not "the boss". Congressmen serve and are answerable to the people of their districts. The President is their equal, not their superior.
They didn’t embarrass him, he did. Ryancare was complete BS. Read the summary on Ryans own website and its basically Obamacare living on. There were only a few very minor tweaks.
But there was nothing to change it in any meaningful way. 70 year old men would still have to pay for reproductive services. The rates that have doubled and tripled over the last couple of years would remain the same.
It looks like it was written by insurance companies.
And I have a bridge to sell you if you think phase 2 or 3 would ever come up a year or so from now.
Trump isn’t the “boss” and we don’t have an obligation not to embarrass the boss. We are the boss and he is the employee, hired to do a job.
As for locking them in a room till they agree, they were holding the GOPe feet to the fire. If you mean stay in the room until Trump and Ryan agree to repealing Obamacare, then fine. No deal is better than the crap deal Ryancare offered us. Ironclad promises were made in the election.
Exactly. I blame Ryan.
Worse Kabar, have you been over to the CTU and read Sundance's take on it? How were the Koch Bros envolved? Club for Growth, Heritage? I don't trust them anymore. Are these guys real tea partiers or are they sell outs too. And which one of these rocket scientist nixed planned parenthood in this bill? That was a poison pill to loose Collins and what's her name from Alaska, do that in the next budget not here.
It wasn't perfect, but as Lou Dobbs and Betsy McCaughley said it was a Jobs Bill, it did get rid of the Ocare Job mandates which restaurants are begging for ( BTW I have a background in taxes, I read the Ryan Bill, there were some gems in their ). Yes the 3 step plan was problematic, but it destroyed Obamacare slowly and painfully as an inside job and I couldn't wait to watch the Dems skiyat as it did.
It is time for them to come to the table and make it work. Someone here or @ CTH said send them all off ( our leadership and key players etc ) to a Mil-Base / private location and take their phones, house them and feed them until it is done.
Works for me...
When you embarrass the boss publicly and contribute to his defeat in his first major initiative, there is a price to pay. This could have been avoided if the FC had gone behind closed doors and worked out a deal privately. No one should have been allowed to leave the room until a consensus was reached.
Well stated. Time to get over “ feelings “ and come to the best interm deal, and concrete steps going forward.
Ditto.
I am very concerned about what appears to be Trump’s naivete about the agenda of the GOP establishment. Ryan, McConnell and company are out to destroy Trump. They do not want to lose power, and they will do anything to keep hold of that power. Trump is making a mistake by trusting Priebus. The Freedom Caucus wants him to succeed. You do not build a coalition by saying things like this to a group who is willing to help, but you have to have a good plan in place or at least work towards putting one together.
It is NOT FC fault that LYIN RYAN brought this bill public with NO input from other factions of party!!!
“When you embarrass the boss publicly and contribute to his defeat in his first major initiative”
I agree. The republican majority in the senate and house failed to work together among themselves. What’s Trump supposed to do? He wants to get things done.
Ryan kept the bill a big secret, then tried to drive it through in 18 days. There wasn't time to work out a deal. And remember, there should have been a concensus plan years ago.
When you have a boss who is aggressively forcing an immoral solution which violates your core convictions and promises to your constituents, he needs to be be publicly embarrassed.
The Freedom Caucus already told Hannity publicly on radio that they were shut out of the process completely. Sorry.
I hope you recall how enthusiastic I was about Trump. Heck, I’ve been proud of a thread I titled: ‘The Trump Revolution’.
But now I’m alarmed.
Exactly.
Sorry, we live in a Republic and Trump is NOT Congress' boss. They are equal branches of Government.
The only boss the HFC has is their constituents. The difference between HFC and RINOS is that they do what their bosses tell them to do.
“When you embarrass the boss publicly and contribute to his defeat in his first major initiative, there is a price to pay.”
Donald Trump isn’t “the boss”. This is the cult of personality.
You got it correctly. Too many in the Freedom Caucus using purity tests as a dealbreaker. This was much bigger than just O-Care, but they didn’t see that. Fine, we will proceed with or without you. You in the caucus decide.
Jeb! and W. are waiting to have coffee with any future Whigs.
Isn't part of their grievance based on, that RYNO disallowed any such participation?
They may be wrong in tactics, but absolutely right on guaranteed issue.