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Who cares about RyanCare (Saturbray)
www.brayincandy.com ^ | 3/25/17 | bray

Posted on 03/25/2017 8:23:57 AM PDT by bray

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 KJV

If you need to lose a battle, RyanCare is the one to lose. This was another Marxist version of insurance which was going to eventually turn into universal Medicare. Now is the time to move on and begin working on a program which will repeal it after their mess falls apart. There is no need to replace it as there will be nothing left of Obamacare after the crash.

President Donald Jobs Trump made the same basic mistake everyone makes once they win the office he started listening to his managers. He has to realize managers get paid whether you win or lose, their checks still cash while yours does not. In this case his managers were Paul Ryan and some gutless advisers in the Oval Office. They told him as a Repub you have to play small ball or the Dems and media will not love you, so they came up with this incremental nonsense.

The entire District of Corruption hates Conservatism and especially President Trump so there is not going to be anything to satisfy them. If they hate you then give them a reason and go in with a bill which repeals it and tell the insurance industry they have to come up with some policies to cover the uninsurable. There will be wailing and crying but this is the only solution since the Dems crushed the insurance policies into a million pieces.

Let the DNC enjoy their victory although his blaming them was pure genius. Whenever he is asked about it he can blame them and in two years the people will be blaming them too. This was not the plan he wanted his name on and certainly not the direction the country wanted to go. For Paul Ryan 2020 to pretend he could insure people as well as the insurance industry did before OCare is a joke, there are far too many variables and pieces to have a gummit program manage. By all appearances he produced something worse although nobody really knew what was in it.

The problem with campaign managers is they have no idea what they are doing. They have never knocked on the doors of the people they claim to be representing and only manage from bunkers. They are trained to manage exactly the way Democrats manage even though Dems have so many advantages the Repubs never do. They have the media amplifying and worshiping their Marxist doxology while Repubs have to explain it themselves. Dems can lie over and over which is explained as the truth and marketed as the greatest brilliance in all of histoir, Repubs are inhumane and Trump has to understand this.

They should have went in with the full program at the start and let it win or fail on its own. He knows how to market a full loaf and maybe only end up with three quarters. What managers do not understand is none of this matters to the voters. They are completely tuned out and could not care less until the next election and only for the ones that count two weeks to one day prior. If you get out your vote you win, if you don’t you lose. They are not even going to remember what happened today. Nothing matters in elections except GOTV and managers have not figured this out, they are always in campaign mode and never into governing.

The fact is you have to try to put the genie back in the bottle. How do you underwrite an entire country which has not been underwritten for eight years? How do you cover pre-existing diseases and conditions when they have all been covered? Obama absolutely destroyed the insurance industry in his attempt to turn this into a communist country and now the only way to bring it back is over a decade or so to reinstall market based forces.

There may have to be two parallel programs to wean the people off of this while the healthy people are under another system which costs much less. There would have to be some sort of gummit guarantees for the high risk group while they are transitioned to the regular plans. There are no easy solutions which is why RyanCare was such a bad idea since he pretended there was.

The other question about ObamaCare2.0 was what keeps you from going to bucket two now? If so much the plan was having Secretary Price make all these changes, what stops him from making those changes anyway and eliminating as much of DeathCare as you can? It seems you can simply reverse much of what was done by the last regime and make things better.

Going forward he has to remember the polls are fake and he is not running for anything now. Come in with the plan of your wildest dreams and push as much of it through as you can. Make sure the budget defunds Obamacare and kill it ASAP. Make sure the American people understand and whether they agree or not they will respect or fear you. The Dems and media are going to hate you no matter what so give them a reason, but never let them be a factor in your decision.

Now is the time to push through an aggressive budget to help the economy grow. Ignore the usual forces who will cry deficits for tax cuts yet have been fine with deficits for every social boondoggle under the sun. Lower taxes and spending stimulates economic growth as the middle class can finally have dollars in their pockets rather than some bureaucrats’.

He has done a great job shrinking gummit and bringing businesses into the circle. If he stays with his strengths he can build a coalition which can tackle HC next year when there is more time to do it and put it on the ballot.

Losing the battle of RyanCare was a victory in disguise and a not very good disguise at that. He was trying to fix a problem the Dems created and it is a much more complex issue than can be solved in four weeks. The fact is it is still on their backs rather than his and when the details of RC were to come out he would be explaining to both left and right why it is better for years to come. He needs to ignore his managers when it goes against his gut and move to his sweet spot which is budgets, and cost cutting. This is a battle he should be eager to fight and win. Time to drain Moscow by the Potomac.

Pray America woke


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To: bray

The next step being telegraphed by our rulers is President Trump working with the ‘Rats and the GOPe to “fix” Obamcare and keep it in place.

We’ll know for sure as the Mid-Terms draw nearer.


21 posted on 03/25/2017 9:48:25 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: TTFlyer

I’m always right.

We will get single payer in the next 5 to 10 years.

Republicans are lying when they say what they want to bring free market health care.

This is the gang that can’t shoot straight. It could only decide move the chairs around the deck of the Titanic.

The insurance industry? It wants to exit an increasingly unprofitable business.

And it doesn’t really provide health insurance to most of the population.

If you suckers like paying premiums and deductibles, you’re welcome to it.

But you’ll never get back what you kept before.


22 posted on 03/25/2017 9:55:20 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop

I think you’re right. The country is too far gone. Hell most of the GOP “moderates” who didn’t want to vote for Ryancare complained that Ryancare was “too conservative.”

The only way this country and its thoroughly corrupt government is turned around is economic collapse and/or bloodshed.


23 posted on 03/25/2017 10:05:23 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: bray

This has to be heartbreaking to Paul Ryan.

For the very first time, Ryan and the GOPestablishment will have to listen to CONSERVATIVES. This has to be so difficult for the GOPe.


24 posted on 03/25/2017 10:12:15 AM PDT by boycott
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To: RitaOK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byrd_Rule


25 posted on 03/25/2017 10:14:45 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: palmer

Thank you very much... I think. ./) B Y R D. Yikes. Sorry about that.


26 posted on 03/25/2017 10:29:44 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: bray

Have you been following the small bills sneaking through. One was making healthcare like any other business — not allowing the companies to fix prices or monopolize the market

The second Rand Paul mentioned yesterday. It had passed one chamber and opened coops to people wanting to join together and buy at a lower rate.

I think Paul is on to something. Pass little bills without media attention until we get a health system we can work with.


27 posted on 03/25/2017 10:52:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT A)
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To: hoosiermama

Think you are right, HM.


28 posted on 03/25/2017 11:27:38 AM PDT by Lakeside Granny ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: RitaOK

Also remember that the Freedom Caucus can only vote if 80% of the members agree, so that kind of locks them all into a bloc, which is the point, but it also makes flexibility on a vote hopeless.


29 posted on 03/25/2017 11:32:49 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

No, I didn’t realize that. Incredibly complex. Thanks.

This is why no outsider but Trump could possibly hope to thread countless needles in order to move a single syllable of signature legislation. Even he may not succeed, with his agenda reduced to issuing Exec Orders.


30 posted on 03/25/2017 11:43:38 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: pugmama
Trump does not have any support except from the business community and the American People.

There. I fixed it for you.

31 posted on 03/25/2017 11:46:56 AM PDT by Gritty (The whole leftist platform is about putting us down and keeping us down - Kurt Schlicter)
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To: RitaOK

Take Chris Stewart of UT, a very conservative congressman, but NOT a member of the HFC because he wants the flexibility to vote for things the HFC might not.


32 posted on 03/25/2017 11:58:16 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Gritty

Yes Gritty. Thanks. I realized as soon as I posted this that I forgot about WE/ US.. the American people!


33 posted on 03/25/2017 12:10:43 PM PDT by pugmama (Ports Moon.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree that this was not the approach that Trump would have taken on such an critical issue. I think he also would have appealed to us and explained the benefits of the bill. Do you think this was his way of taking Ryan down? Giving him enough rope to hang himself?


34 posted on 03/25/2017 1:42:22 PM PDT by christie
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To: Alberta's Child

Perhaps that’s the case but what is the path from here? Wait for explosion and then suddenly Congress will have the will to repeal it? The Dems are locked in which is an asset politically. There are too many soft est GOP members who will just bail it out or step deeper into single payer.

Unfortunately the discussion at the WH is likely when is best time to work w Dems to “improve” Obamacare so does not explode. I’m afraid this whole thing is going to move to the left when it does resurface.


35 posted on 03/25/2017 3:27:32 PM PDT by RightInTheMain
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To: RightInTheMain

When the 2018 insurance renewal notices start coming out in October, members of Congress in BOTH parties will be climbing all over themselves to put together a bill that has immediate impacts, not the lame three-step nonsense we saw with the Ryan bill.


36 posted on 03/25/2017 3:39:25 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: christie

I don’t think Trump deliberately undermined Ryan here. I think he just made up his mind that he would be as supportive as possible even if he knew it was futile.


37 posted on 03/25/2017 3:43:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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