Posted on 03/25/2017 8:23:57 AM PDT by bray
enough brayin
A few points:
* I’m not fan of his, but Ryan is not Trump’s chief strategist and this was a significant strategic mistake. I personally would fire Bannon or Priebus because candidly is this flat out embarrassing as it weakens both the scope and ability to pass forthcoming legislative efforts.
* I agree, put it all together as one bill, then fight for it. The AHCA three-phase concept violates the “keep it simple” rule of success in marketing. Not having it pass in that form is preferable to what has occurred.
Agree with every word.
It’s been amazing to me to watch the number of freepers who wanted to wrap Obamacare around the neck of Trump and the Republicans with only minor changes.
Personally, I am proud of my Rep. Dave Brat for standing up for us.
Here’s where I think Ryan and the GOP leadership might be smarter than a lot of us give them credit for. If they knew it was going to be a tough political climate to get major changes to Obamacare, the best approach was to do exactly what was done: put up a bill that had strong GOP support but wasn’t going to pass.
See Post #6. One thing that has stuck in the back of my mind over the last few weeks is that the Ryan bill was very much NOT the kind of approach Trump would ever take on anything. Everything about him has been a grand, over-the-top spectacle. The Ryan bill was the equivalent of a crappy tenement in the South Bronx for a guy who builds 60-story luxury towers in Manhattan. This leads me to consider one intriguing possibility: IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO PASS AT ALL.
I personally believe RomneyCare Romney was behind this mess and is still pulling Ryan’s strings. Romney, IMO, is eaten up with jealousy of Trump.
I thought it was too early to push any such bill anyway, since Trump's first priority should be to drain the swamp... which includes many in Congress. Letting the swamp entangle us deeper into their legislation felt wrong to me.
I want Trump to focus on getting some of the corruption out of government first, and start making some of these people realize that they work for us instead of us working for them, then start passing major legislation with that new theme in mind.
Let ObamaCare explode. The Democrats still own it.
I think this is a defeat for Trump. Now everything he wants to do will be challenged by the GOPe, as well as the leftist courts. The Rats just have to sit back and watch. Then they will start impeachment and some GOPe will go along with it. Trump does not have any support except from the business community.
Who couldn’t get enough votes? Ryno Ryan.
The Ryno is therefore to blame. Saying that 0-care will stay around reinforces the blame.
Ryno is not a friend, and his position is weakened. That’s the silver lining. We want a speaker that will do a straight up repeal.
My theory is that Paul Ryan is no Nancy Pelosi, who can ram a square peg through a small round hole.
But also, Pelosi has an entire Democrat Party that is willingly Marxist leaning and a caucus that is straight up communist inspired. THAT helps when it’s cutting time.
The Republican Party is no longer, even in the House of Representatives, an entire block of free market capitalists and *none* are seen casting even a shadow at the doors of Christian Churches on a regular basis, EXCEPT, during a campaign cycle.
(Yes. Say “hello” to Ted Cruz, as well.)
The Bird Rule apparently hamstrings legislation in a divided Republican Party, full of voters who don’t like the Republican Party much anymore, in the first place.
The Democrat Party over the decades has become coastal, we now fully realize, with the population numbers to intimidate middle America.
The Democrat Marxists have overtaken our blue ribbon universities and all influential institutions, including reducing even public schools and churches to “feel good” therapies pushing tolerance, and happiness on earth, with no real consequences for such self indulgence.
Safe places... ZZZzzzz.
Now we hear about the Bird Rule pleasing that must first occur to get anything into the Senate, for a divided Republican Party, contrary to the solid block of Democrat votes for their legislation.
And, we hear that beating the Bird Rule calls for using the “Reconciliation” process, but that it can only be used two times in one year! So, the HORepresentatives has to be savants in order to decide which two issues are most important to circumvent the Bird Rule and shove into the Senate.
How can we function with any simplicity? On the other hand, the road blocks have probably saved us from even more Leftist legislation when they are in power, across the aisle.
Another thing. I am not wild about having a single Health Czar making implementation of law with abandon. Think how we felt when Sebelious, from Kansas, was Czarina.
And I am thakful to Rep Meadow who explained the evil management amendment in the bill. Evil.
Whether this is a blessing in disguise or a sack of lemons to be used to make lemonade is still to be determined.
Either way it’s no where near the hit the leftist propagandists make it out to be but it’s okay to let them think so.
I would call it a lesson in seeing where the rep’s stand and how much conviction they have. Now that the Trump team knows this they can move forward with less objectivity and a greatly improved footing. Now the team knows what they are working with.
While business and politics are different the business of government is still business.
You clarity of vision on this subject is spot on
WE have to drain the swamp by not electing swamp creatures like Ryan.
Until everybody who votes for weasels stops voting for them and elects decent guys like Dave Brat, there will be no draining of the swamp.
Repeal it word for word.
Government cannot fix healthcare.
Both parties want single payer.
Most people are already on Medicaid, which is defacto single payer and the expansion in many GOP states is here to stay.
When Obamacare crashes, all that’s left is Medicaid.
This is by design. The pulling of the AHCA won’t change the inevitable outcome.
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