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By the NYT’s Own Standards, Paper Should Hold Obama Responsible for Spying
Newsbusters.org ^ | March 18, 2017 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 03/18/2017 2:29:42 PM PDT by Kaslin

Words matter.

Fact: The administration of President Barack Obama surveilled the campaign associates of the President’s political opponent, Donald Trump. Then the classified information gained was leaked to the press - repeatedly. All of which furthered a liberal narrative that Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton.

How do we know? Because the New York Times says so.

This week White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer went in to considerable detail - specifics - on press reports of Obama spying on Trump. Yet time after time after time the media across the board - yes, even Fox News - just blatantly ignored the evidence and, worse, insisted there was none. More astoundingly, Republican members of Congress are denying outright that the evidence that is right in front of them - presented in detail by the New York Times and others - even exists.

The irritating-to-the-media fact that talk radio’s Mark Levin broke through this media dam of denial was momentarily dealt with by the media - and dismissed. So, it’s time for a “for-the-record” listing of the specifics that the media is quite deliberately ignoring - specifics that show beyond doubt that, yes indeed, the New York Times has documented in chapter and verse that the Obama Administration - the very same administration that surveilled the e-mails of Fox correspondent James Rosen, tried to force New York Times reporter James Risen to reveal his sources for a CIA-related book - and, notably - had to apologize to an irate German Chancellor Angela Merkel for allegedly surveilling her cell phone - did in fact conduct surveillance of Trump associates. (Note: Reporter Risen called Obama the “Greatest Enemy To Press Freedom In A Generation”.)

Here’s another fact. When the president is not Barack Obama, the New York Times delights in holding presidents accountable for anything and everything that goes on in their administrations. Especially if their name is Reagan or George W. Bush.

In the Reagan era, there was the Iran-Contra affair, which involved a convoluted scheme by some administration officials to trade arms for hostages and use the monies received from Iran to fund the anti-Communist Nicaraguan contras. The President had no knowledge of this. Yet he was pounded by the New York Times - and many others - in the media to take responsibility for what happened. Examples:

The Times raged on in a December, 2, 1986 editorial about “President Reagan and His Operators,” which began thusly:

“Against news of a startling plunge in his popularity, President Reagan has gone from blaming the press for the Iran arms scandal finally to some constructive steps to end it.”

Got that? The Times is saying that instead of blaming the press for holding him accountable for something others in his administration did without his knowledge, Reagan needed to get on with “constructive steps” to correct the problem that he, Reagan, was responsible for as chief executive.

In a Times editorial from November 22, 1987, the paper was once again holding Reagan personally responsible for something he did not know about or authorize.  Specifically the paper said that Reagan accepted “nominal responsibility” for the actions of others but he was “the man who made it all possible.” He was specifically accused of abusing the public trust even though there was no proof - none - that he had authorized the arms for hostages enterprise.

Then there was this Times editorial from March 6, 1987, titled: “The President and the Quagmire.” Among other things the Times said - bold print supplied:

“President Reagan still cannot pronounce the word ''I'' in the same sentence as the word ''mistake.'' If his speech about the Iran-contra scandal Wednesday was intended as a confession of error, his heart wasn't in it. He sounded at times like a man who's sure he hasn't done anything wrong -and promises never to do it again.

But despite some grudging, fudging aspects, Mr. Reagan's appearance brought a welcome advance. With this speech he accepted, and demonstrated, responsibility.”

Got that? Reagan didn’t do anything wrong. He didn’t know what had been done in his name. But be that as it may, these were the actions of people in his administration and therefore he had to make sure he stood up in front the nation and the world and “accepted, and demonstrated, responsibility.”

Lest one think this was just the Times posture of always holding Reagan accountable for the actions of his administration even when he was unaware of them, the Times made it a point to apply the same standard to George W. Bush. On May 14, 2004, the Times, in an uproar over the discovery of the mistreatment of prisoners by American soldiers at the Iraqi Abu Ghraib prison demanded that “Mr. Bush and his Republican allies in Congress should stop trying to evade responsibility by accusing those who want to ask tough questions of being disloyal to the troops and the war effort.”

In other words? While those soldiers in Iraq may have done the actual deed of mistreating prisoners without President Bush’s knowledge much less assent, the ultimate person responsible for Abu Ghraib was Bush himself - and he needed to promptly “stop trying to evade responsibility,”

Now come Times stories like the following, all of which took place during the Obama administration:

The New York Times, January 19, 2017. Headline:

Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates

The story begins as follows, bold print supplied:

WASHINGTON — American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump….

The F.B.I. is leading the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, the C.I.A. and the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit. The investigators have accelerated their efforts in recent weeks but have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing, the officials said. One official said intelligence reports based on some of the wiretapped communications had been provided to the White House.”

Full stop right there. The Times is saying in plain English that “law enforcement and intelligence agencies” are conducting “a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump…”

Question: Who exactly do these “law enforcement and intelligence agencies” and the cited FBI, National Security Agency, CIA and Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit work for? Answer? Just as those involved in the Reagan-era Iran-Contra affair worked for President Reagan, and those soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison were the responsibility - per the Times - of President George W. Bush so too are all the people involved in the agencies listed above by the Times the responsibility of the sitting president of the day - President Barack Obama. Which is to say, members of the Obama administration were using, per the Times, “wiretapped communications” of  “associates” of Obama’s political opponent - identified by the Times as “President-elect Donald J. Trump.”

But the Times wasn’t done making this case that the Obama administration had in fact wiretapped or surveilled (and to be clear, wiretapping is a form of surveillance).

On March 1, 2017, the Times headlined:

Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking

This story began:

WASHINGTON — In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government. Former American officials say they had two aims: to ensure that such meddling isn’t duplicated in future American or European elections, and to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators.…

Question: Where did Obama “White House officials” get the “information… about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians” in the first place? The Times has already provided the answer: the Obama White House received this information from other Obama officials outside the White House. The information, received as the Times has noted, by Obama administration surveillance of the “associates” of candidate and President-elect Trump, was then used by Obama White House officials as they “scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump and Russians — across the government.” 

Again? Who was the sitting President of the United States while all of this surveillance of Trump “associates” were being conducted? And reported right there in the Times? A paper presumably read by the White House staff at a minimum if not the President himself? That’s right: President Obama.

It boggles the mind that the media - not to mention Republican members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees - are saying they have found no evidence that the Obama administration was using surveillance to spy on President Trump. Let’s not play games and say that “associates” of the President somehow are not the President.

Note well the irony here. Already every word or deed from someone somewhere in the newborn Trump administration has the media holding President Trump himself responsible for whatever was said or done. When press secretary Sean Spicer appeared in the White House press briefing room to scorch the press for its inauguration coverage - the Times blamed the President. It may be a high profile adviser - Spicer, Steve Bannon or Kellyanne Conway today or during the campaign Corey Lewandowski - or it could be some fringe supporter involved in some fracas out there  on the trail. It could be an unwated endorsement from David Duke.  No matter, the Times and the rest of the media hold and held Trump himself personally responsible.

But Barack Obama? The central figure in a blossoming scandal that had  - per the New York Times - members of his administration wiretapping or otherwise surveilling his opponent’s “associates”? Well, yawn, no big deal.

One can only wonder whether members of Congress read the Times reporting. Or whether Times reporters themselves have read their own work. One wonders what Shep Smith over there at Fox News has possibly been thinking when he says “Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the president of the United States was surveilled at any time in any way, full stop.”  Here’s a bulletin from the New York Times, Shep:

“ American law enforcement and intelligence agencies are examining intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of President-elect Donald J. Trump…”

Those “intercepted communications and financial transactions” from Trump “associates” working for Obama’s political adversary were in fact reported by the Times as intercepted by the Obama administration.

Words matter. And the New York Times - which stands by the words in its reporting on this and refuses to back away - has produced something else besides words.

Memo to the larger media, Speaker Ryan and the House and Senate Intelligence Committees? That something else is called “evidence.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: barackhussein0bama; nyt; nytarticle; obamagate; obamasspiedonustrump; presidenttrump; trumptowergate; worstpresidentever

1 posted on 03/18/2017 2:29:42 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The times is completely biased. In now way would they ever criticize their man bammy.


2 posted on 03/18/2017 2:35:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: F*ck you.)
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To: Kaslin

Very nice article, 1/2 it became tldr;

I think the answer goes beyond ‘bias’. The top media considered is allied or aligned or wholly as part of the progressive movement.

The only exception is Fox news .... if you can keep Sheppard tuned off.


3 posted on 03/18/2017 2:44:07 PM PDT by Fhios (Right now it looks like the condemned dragging their feet on the way to the gallows.)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong! Fundamentally, the NYT’s only standard is the “double standard” - which allows them to always apply restrictions only to Right and always allow power and liberties only to Left.


4 posted on 03/18/2017 2:52:15 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Fhios

I always mute him when he is on, but when someone else is substituting for him; which is usually Harris Faulkner, than I watch and listen.


5 posted on 03/18/2017 3:10:25 PM PDT by Kaslin ( The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Kaslin

“NYT” and “standards” should never be used in the same sentence.


6 posted on 03/18/2017 3:50:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both)
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To: Kaslin

I had no idea that the New York Times had standards!


7 posted on 03/18/2017 3:50:28 PM PDT by Junk Silver (I have four words for Bill and Hillary Clinton to ponder: "Attorney General Jeff Sessions".)
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To: Kaslin

The irony here is just too much. The NY Times accused President Bush of spying on Americans in 2003 and were proven wrong. Yet, in 2016, we may have President Obama doing exactly that and the evidence for it provided by the very same NY Times. In Jan 2017, their front page said:


8 posted on 03/18/2017 4:19:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Grampa Dave

the Fake News MSM does not want to know -

Youtube: 12mins38secs: Sean Spicer HEATED argument with ABC Jonathan Karl on Trump Wiretap Claim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B6xmAYqa3c&feature=youtu.be


9 posted on 03/18/2017 4:25:34 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon

More non fake news, the mediots don’t to discuss:

On RT, Larry C. Johnson Alleged That Obama “Collu[ded] Overseas With Britain’s Own GCHQ” To Spy On Trump. Appearing on a March 6 broadcast on state-sponsored Russian news network RT, Larry C. Johnson, credited as a “former CIA analyst and State Department official,” alleged that “there was some collusion overseas” between U.S. intelligence and “Britain’s own GHCQ (sic)” “to derail the candidacy of Donald Trump.”

Citing “very good friends,” Johnson alleged that GCHQ “actually passed” information “to John Brennan, and it was disseminated within the U.S. government.” Johnson closed the RT interview by claiming former Obama administration officials involved in the collusion could face “criminal charges,” specifically sedition.

From the March 6 interview:

NEIL HARVEY (HOST): Let’s bring in former CIA analyst and State Department official Larry Johnson, joins me live over the line. Very good afternoon to you, Larry. We’ve heard it said that these are really serious accusations by some guests we’ve had on so far. What’s your assessment of what Donald Trump’s had to said — how big a deal is this?

LARRY JOHNSON: I think it’s a huge deal. The problem is Trump probably shouldn’t have done this via Twitter, because to call it that it was a wiretap is technically inaccurate. And the denials by the Obama people are like Bill Clinton asking what the meaning of “is” is with respect to was oral sex a sexual act.

In this case, I understand from very good friends that what happened was both Jim Clapper and John Brennan at CIA were intimately involved in trying to derail the candidacy of Donald Trump. That there was some collusion overseas with Britain’s own GHCQ (sic).

That information that was gathered from GHCQ (sic) was actually passed to John Brennan, and it was disseminated within the U.S. government. This dissemination was illegal. Donald Trump is in essence correct that the intelligence agencies and some in the law enforcement community on the side of the FBI were in fact illegally trying to access, monitor his communications with his aides, and with other people.

All of this with an end to try to destroy and discredit his presidency. I don’t think there will be any doubt of that. [RT, 3/6/17 via YouTube]

https://mediamatters.org/research/2017/03/14/fox-news-conspiracy-obama-asked-british-intelligence-wiretap-donald-trump-echoes-rt-interview/215678


10 posted on 03/19/2017 12:43:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Kaslin

New York Times 2/14/17 Headline:

Trump Campaign Had Repeated Contacts with Russian Intelligence.

Byline: Michael S Schmidt, Mark Mazzetti and Matt Apuzzo

Washington - Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

CNN and NPR also broadcast and wrote up stories based on these U.S. officials account of the surveillance. The CNN report of 2/15/17 claims that both president Trump and then president Obama were both briefed on the details.

(One need only Google Trump Tap Tapped & Intercepted to get a sample of what is out there on this subject.)


11 posted on 03/19/2017 3:57:45 PM PDT by Diogenez (The Media: Attack Machine for the left.)
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