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Excerpts from Howie Carr's new book: ‘Kennedy Babylon’ – trouble in Camelot
Boston Herald ^ | March 8, 2017 | By Howie Carr

Posted on 03/08/2017 6:47:05 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee

“Kennedy Babylon Vol. 1,” a new book by Herald columnist and WRKO talk show host Howie Carr, explores the dark side of the Kennedy legacy.

Joe Kennedy didn’t believe in making enemies needlessly — especially if they were cops or gangsters. There was just no upside to it, or at least not enough to justify the risks.

There were two ruthless, powerful men who likewise assumed that they did have something coming to them from the Kennedys. They expected to be taken care of, or at least treated with kid gloves, by the new administration.

One was a cop, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. The other was a gangster from Chicago, Sam “Momo” Giancana. Even if his sons didn’t, Joe Kennedy understood what the Kennedys owed Hoover and Giancana.

Hoover had two sets of audiotapes of JFK engaging in scandalous extramarital sex — one from 1941, with suspected Nazi spy Inga Arvad in Room 132 of the Fort Sumter Hotel in Charleston, S.C., and the other with his 23-year-old Jackie-lookalike Senate aide, Pamela Turnure, in 1958.

Hoover had a reprieve (when JFK reappointed him), but he understood his continuing vulnerability. The problem for Hoover wasn’t so much Jack as his brother, Bobby, who as attorney general would now be the Director’s boss, at least nominally.

“You have to get along with the old man,” JFK told Bobby. The larger problem between Hoover and RFK may have been the Director’s homosexuality. RFK had a lifelong aversion to gay men.

Mobsters would be picked up on bugs or wiretaps discussing Hoover. In Philadelphia, one gangster accurately told boss Angelo Bruno why RFK was trying to get rid of the Director:

“He wants Edgar Hoover out of the FBI because he is a (expletive). I heard this before ... ”

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


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1 posted on 03/08/2017 6:47:05 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Any guy who orders up a lobotomy on his kid because she has a little free will puts out for free is one sick bastard most likely to spawn and groom more sick bastards.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 6:51:57 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Brad from Tennessee

KENNEDY’S WERE THE closest thing to American royalty-an opiate of the masses. They didn’t live up to their end. Anyone notice how the Obamas get the same treatment? Only 8 years to live up to their end-with MSM help- is not too difficult.


3 posted on 03/08/2017 6:59:49 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Bkmk


5 posted on 03/08/2017 7:08:08 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The article states that the Kennedys made fun of “Gay Edgar Hoover” but the term “gay” for homosexuals was not in wide use at the time and Hoover was regarded as eccentric more often than perverted.

Seymour Hersh’s THE DARK SIDE OF CAMELOT and Edward Klein’s ALL TOO HUMAN are still two of the great books on the 1000 days of scandals.


6 posted on 03/08/2017 7:56:27 PM PST by Monterrosa-24
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To: Monterrosa-24

Another thing is that Soviet documents showed that they had started the rumors of J. Edgar’s perversion. That’s a pretty big detail to miss.


7 posted on 03/08/2017 9:11:27 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA

Ping


8 posted on 03/08/2017 11:36:51 PM PST by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Always thought it was the mafia that hit both Kennedy’s. Not the Russians (Soviets).


9 posted on 03/09/2017 4:58:19 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Monterrosa-24
the term “gay” for homosexuals was not in wide use at the time

1938, Bringing Up Baby. Cary Grant in a lady's dressing gown explains "I just went GAY!!"

1949, A Connecticut Yankee, Bill Bendix, Cedric Hardwicke and Bing Crosby sang "Busy Doing Nothing," wherein "and then inspect the rainbows so they'll be bright and GAY!"

The latter can be heard here, in an unmistakeable tone: youtube.com/watch?v=j9oWIrRC7NA

It was in common use in the reel world, but not in the real world.

10 posted on 03/09/2017 8:39:00 AM PST by Buttons12 ( rent this space)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
explores the dark side of the Kennedy legacy

dark side? As if there is another side other than dark for these miscreants.

Media made up Camelot by claiming the turd that was the Kennedy Clan had a shiny end.

11 posted on 03/09/2017 8:56:02 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Have we not heard everything there is to hear about the Kennedys?

I know about Rosemary and her sadistic dad...
....Joseph’s deal with the devil and the Mafia
.....all of John’s women
....Marilyn Monroe

Sordid.....tawdry......disgusting

Actually, O’Reilly’s Killing Kennedy is fairly complete, imo


12 posted on 03/09/2017 10:34:47 AM PST by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: Buttons12

I have a book on the shelf published in 1942: OUR HEARTS WERE YOUNG AND GAY. It is named that because the only meaning that “gay” had to the two authors meant light-hearted and happy.


13 posted on 03/09/2017 12:36:12 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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